This year's big acts

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This year's big acts

Postby The Modernist » 05 Feb 2009, 19:35

In 2009 it seems BCB has gone for...Yo La Tango, Diana Ross, Nick Cave, New Order, Can, Neu, William Bell and Gang Of Four.

A motley crew to be sure (Motley Crue are my prediction for 2010 btw).

Anyone I missed? Any comments?

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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Butch Manly » 05 Feb 2009, 20:02

Dr Modernist wrote:Yo La Tango, Diana Ross, Nick Cave, New Order, Can, Neu, William Bell and Gang Of Four.


*Heads back to drawing board*

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Postby Matt Wilson » 05 Feb 2009, 20:04

Next year I'm going for Styx, Kansas, Rush, Ted Nugent, Journey & Triumph, but not the obvious tune choices.
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Leg of lamb » 05 Feb 2009, 20:08

I think the Krautrock turnout is to be expected - it's long been a healthy bias on BCB and this is the first year I remember it being really expressed. And in Can, you have a band which are actually capable of reaching out beyond the experts. I put them in my list, first, because I've genuinely been blown away by the discovery of 'Halleluwhah' in the last year, but also because they're a band who take me out of my poppy comfort zone and give me some edge. I'll be up front about that. Clearly, the calculation backfired - hard for Can to be edgy when every man and his dog are picking them as well.

I'm most frustrated about the William Bell situation. I honestly could've picked about four other Bell numbers - especially 'Crying All By Myself', which I prefer to 'I Forgot to Be Your Lover' - but I judged that 'IFTBYL' would have greater visibility from its recent inclusion on Take Me to the River. Unfortunately, everyone else judged the same!

I'm very interested by the cyclical group-think of how we pick artists every year. I'm also interested in how one can inadvertently appear very foolish and hackneyed by coinciding with lots of other people. It's a minefield.
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby PENK » 05 Feb 2009, 20:18

Leg of lamb wrote:I'm very interested by the cyclical group-think of how we pick artists every year. I'm also interested in how one can inadvertently appear very foolish and hackneyed by coinciding with lots of other people. It's a minefield.


The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 05 Feb 2009, 20:22

penk! wrote:
Leg of lamb wrote:I'm very interested by the cyclical group-think of how we pick artists every year. I'm also interested in how one can inadvertently appear very foolish and hackneyed by coinciding with lots of other people. It's a minefield.


The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.


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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Bungo the Mungo » 05 Feb 2009, 20:42

penk! wrote:
Leg of lamb wrote:I'm very interested by the cyclical group-think of how we pick artists every year. I'm also interested in how one can inadvertently appear very foolish and hackneyed by coinciding with lots of other people. It's a minefield.


The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.


yes, well said penk.

for a board of music geeks it's absolutely shocking what's considered willfully obscure.

i think i might choose a beatles b-side next year, just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

of course i'll post a youtube link with it.

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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Diamond Dog » 05 Feb 2009, 20:47

solarskope wrote:i think i might choose a beatles b-side next year, just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

of course i'll post a youtube link with it.


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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Bungo the Mungo » 05 Feb 2009, 20:51

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solarskope wrote:i think i might choose a beatles b-side next year, just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

of course i'll post a youtube link with it.


Surely you only know how to input "West Ham" into the Youtube searchbar?


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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 05 Feb 2009, 20:58

cat amongst the pigeons.




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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Corporate whore » 05 Feb 2009, 21:01

solarskope wrote:
penk! wrote:
Leg of lamb wrote:I'm very interested by the cyclical group-think of how we pick artists every year. I'm also interested in how one can inadvertently appear very foolish and hackneyed by coinciding with lots of other people. It's a minefield.


The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.


yes, well said penk.

for a board of music geeks it's absolutely shocking what's considered willfully obscure.

i think i might choose a beatles b-side next year, just to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

of course i'll post a youtube link with it.


I assumed he was taking the piss.
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 05 Feb 2009, 21:13

solarskope wrote:
penk! wrote: The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.


yes, well said penk.

for a board of music geeks it's absolutely shocking what's considered willfully obscure.


Actually I'm pretty sure that Cale has appeared on at least three lists and both Clark and Holloway have appeared on at least two.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 05 Feb 2009, 21:16

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
solarskope wrote:
penk! wrote: The best way around it is to be wilfully obscure. That's what I was aiming for by picking complete unknowns like Gene Clark, Caetano Veloso, Brenda Holloway, the Congos and John Cale, anyway. Wouldn't expect anyone on a music board to have heard of any of them.


yes, well said penk.

for a board of music geeks it's absolutely shocking what's considered willfully obscure.


Actually I'm pretty sure that Cale has appeared on at least three lists and both Clark and Holloway have appeared on at least two.


i assume i was taking the piss.

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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 05 Feb 2009, 21:17

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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Billybob Dylan » 05 Feb 2009, 22:14

Lance Matthew wrote:Next year I'm going for Styx, Kansas, Rush, Ted Nugent, Journey & Triumph, but not the obvious tune choices.
No, I'm talking the good songs.

The Nuge's Hey Baby is a cracker, and from the same era, how about Les Dudek's City Magic?
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Copehead » 06 Feb 2009, 09:45

I don't understand the William Bell thing, a rightfully obscure Stax soul artist. Have we run out of songs by rightfully famous 60s and 70s soul artists so we have to start mining the second division now?

Why not Sam Cooke better singer better songs, same with Otis Redding, are they just a bit too obvious for us now or was 2007 the year of the Bell rediscovery?
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 06 Feb 2009, 10:10

It interests me, rather than pisses me off, that so many went for 'I Forgot....'. How can this be? Did someone start a thread on it recently?

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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Feb 2009, 10:17

Mrs. Remould wrote:It interests me, rather than pisses me off, that so many went for 'I Forgot....'. How can this be? Did someone start a thread on it recently?



I think it was included on the Take Me To The River compilation which has been pretty popular on this board hence its inclusion. Personally, I first heard it on that Mojo Soul Riot cd.
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby The Modernist » 06 Feb 2009, 11:34

Copehead wrote:I don't understand the William Bell thing, a rightfully obscure Stax soul artist. Have we run out of songs by rightfully famous 60s and 70s soul artists so we have to start mining the second division now?

Why not Sam Cooke better singer better songs, same with Otis Redding, are they just a bit too obvious for us now or was 2007 the year of the Bell rediscovery?


You see I fundamentally disagree with this. Your idea that there is some premier league of famous soul artists -marvin, smokey, aretha etc. And below this some next division of slightly less famous soul singers -Soloman Burke say or Ann Peebles and then you have a division below this of more obscure names..and this is supposedly meant to be a guarantee of the respective quality of this stuff. I don't know where you get this stuff from, I don't know anyone who loves soul music who thinks this way. Are some of the records on Dave Godin's deep soul compilations poor because the artists are obscure?
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Re: This year's big acts

Postby Johnny Fartpants » 06 Feb 2009, 11:51

Dr Modernist wrote:In 2009 it seems BCB has gone for...Yo La Tango, Diana Ross, Nick Cave, New Order, Can, Neu, William Bell and Gang Of Four.


All of whom, with the possible exception of early New Order, are shite.