BITTER RECRIMINATIONS 2007 REMIX

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Postby moonie » 25 Apr 2007, 02:06

Jeff K wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote: The Go Betweens and The Shangri-Las (who are good but have no business on anyone's top ten anything)


Anger and bitterness make people say the dumbest things sometimes.

:lol:


I speak from experience that the Go-Betweens in round 1 will not get you anywhere. I've studied these threads carefully, plotting my win, you see. The Go-Betweens are definitely a round two or three offering.

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Postby Jeff K » 25 Apr 2007, 02:11

moonie wrote:
Jeff K wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote: The Go Betweens and The Shangri-Las (who are good but have no business on anyone's top ten anything)


Anger and bitterness make people say the dumbest things sometimes.

:lol:


I speak from experience that the Go-Betweens in round 1 will not get you anywhere. I've studied these threads carefully, plotting my win, you see. The Go-Betweens are definitely a round two or three offering.


Where would you drop Ralph Stanley then?
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Postby moonie » 25 Apr 2007, 02:23

Jeff K wrote:Where would you drop Ralph Stanley then?


Ralph's in my heart, right? He'll understand if he doesn't make my list. There's all of six people here who'd recognize any of his (or their) tunes anyway.

The list I would produce if I want to lose quickly?

Goes like this:

Come All You Tenderhearted- The Stanley Brothers
If You Ever Needed- The Reverend Milton Brunson
Peace in the Valley- Clara Ward and the Clara Ward Singers
Gold Watch and Chain- The Carter Family
Blue Yodel #12- Jimmie Rodgers
Losing Your Love-Jim Reeves
Rain, Rain- Bill Frisell
'Scuse These Blues-Clifford Brown
That's Right (You're Not From Texas)- Lyle Lovett
Gentle On My Mind- John Hartford

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Postby toomanyhatz » 25 Apr 2007, 02:32

goldwax wrote:
moonie wrote:The list I would produce if I want to lose quickly?

Goes like this:

Come All You Tenderhearted- The Stanley Brothers
If You Ever Needed- The Reverend Milton Brunson
Peace in the Valley- Clara Ward and the Clara Ward Singers
Gold Watch and Chain- The Carter Family
Blue Yodel #12- Jimmie Rodgers
Losing Your Love-Jim Reeves
Rain, Rain- Bill Frisell
'Scuse These Blues-Clifford Brown
That's Right (You're Not From Texas)- Lyle Lovett
Gentle On My Mind- John Hartford


You'd have gotten my vote!


Ditto.
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Postby moonie » 25 Apr 2007, 02:38

toomanyhatz wrote:
goldwax wrote:
moonie wrote:The list I would produce if I want to lose quickly?

Goes like this:

Come All You Tenderhearted- The Stanley Brothers
If You Ever Needed- The Reverend Milton Brunson
Peace in the Valley- Clara Ward and the Clara Ward Singers
Gold Watch and Chain- The Carter Family
Blue Yodel #12- Jimmie Rodgers
Losing Your Love-Jim Reeves
Rain, Rain- Bill Frisell
'Scuse These Blues-Clifford Brown
That's Right (You're Not From Texas)- Lyle Lovett
Gentle On My Mind- John Hartford


You'd have gotten my vote!


Ditto.


It's probably going to see a proper presentation in Chicago, so hang tight...

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Postby LeBaron » 25 Apr 2007, 02:47

toomanyhatz wrote:
goldwax wrote:
moonie wrote:The list I would produce if I want to lose quickly?

Goes like this:

Come All You Tenderhearted- The Stanley Brothers
If You Ever Needed- The Reverend Milton Brunson
Peace in the Valley- Clara Ward and the Clara Ward Singers
Gold Watch and Chain- The Carter Family
Blue Yodel #12- Jimmie Rodgers
Losing Your Love-Jim Reeves
Rain, Rain- Bill Frisell
'Scuse These Blues-Clifford Brown
That's Right (You're Not From Texas)- Lyle Lovett
Gentle On My Mind- John Hartford


You'd have gotten my vote!


Ditto.


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Postby Count Machuki » 25 Apr 2007, 21:08

moonie wrote:
Come All You Tenderhearted- The Stanley Brothers
If You Ever Needed- The Reverend Milton Brunson
Peace in the Valley- Clara Ward and the Clara Ward Singers
Gold Watch and Chain- The Carter Family
Blue Yodel #12- Jimmie Rodgers
Losing Your Love-Jim Reeves
Rain, Rain- Bill Frisell
'Scuse These Blues-Clifford Brown
That's Right (You're Not From Texas)- Lyle Lovett
Gentle On My Mind- John Hartford


A

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Postby Snarfyguy » 25 Apr 2007, 21:35

Jeff K wrote:Stack the Shangs up against any classic girl group and they do just fine. The Ronettes had the greatest of the GG songs in 'Be My Baby' but overall, I prefer the Shangri-Las. Image, attitude and killer tunes is what seals the deal for me. And no, it's not just because they're white!

It's because they're from New York! :D
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Postby Count Machuki » 25 Apr 2007, 21:48

you cloth-eared bastards.
:evil:

all bribes are off.

just kidding...
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Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D

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Postby king feeb » 25 Apr 2007, 23:00

count machuki wrote:all bribes are off.



Does this mean I have to bring the nipple clamps & giant diapers back to the sex shop?
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Postby Jumper k » 02 May 2007, 08:36

a...
Kizza Me - Big Star
Tally Ho - The Clean
Dead End Street - The Kinks
You Keep Me Hangin' On - The Supremes
Everybody's Happy Nowadays - The Buzzcocks
Police & Thieves - Junior Murvin
Flowers In The Rain - The Move
Overnight Sensation - The Raspberries
Surf's Up - The Beach Boys
Move On Up - Curtis Mayfield
Beyond Belief - Elvis Costello & The Attractions
Sometimes Always - The Jesus and Mary Chain
The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game - The Marvelettes
Twisterella - Ride
Prairie Rose - Roxy Music

b...
My Ship Is Coming In - The Walker Brothers
A Private Affair - The Saints
Everglades - Dale Hawkins
Killing Floor - Howling Wolf
Check The Rhyme - A Tribe Called Quest
Instant Whip - The Tremeloes
Low Rider - War
Bats - The Bronx
Carnival - Mark Lanegan
Midnight Train To Georgia - Gladys Knight and the Pips
Sweet Love On My Mind - The Johnny Burnette Trio
Love Is Here And Now You're Gone - Tami Lynn
Al-Naafiysh (The Soul) - Hashim
Cinderella - The Sonics
Heart-Shaped Box - The Crest

Take a look at the 2 lists above. One is vital, dare I say a little contemporary, and chock full of interesting and eclectic choices all of which display an in-depth appreciation of music and its myriad of forms. The other is a blatant attempt to gerimander votes and a desparate plea to be liked by a certain demograph, namely those aged between 30 and 50.
One list managed 47 votes the other a mere 17.
I am outraged by the sheer ignorance of most voters, the lack of appreciation for anything remotely cutting edge and the inate conservatism that pervades the board.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 02 May 2007, 09:13

Jumper k wrote:I am outraged by the sheer ignorance of most voters, the lack of appreciation for anything remotely cutting edge and the inate conservatism that pervades the board.


I echo these sentiments to the letter.

I propose a CULL here at BCB. We entice all the uptight bores to one section of the board with a thread entitled 'Joni Mitchell - Picasso, My Love, My Passion et un coupe de l'echard de mon pere, hein?' - wait till they've all arrived, then blow up the thread and all the fuckers there to kingdom fucking come.

On top of that, I refuse to engage in discussion of any nature with anybody who favours the castrated, love-struck Beefheart over Pere Ubu in their most exciting and vital minutes.

I despair of you people, I really do. I hope we end up with a deserving winner, but unfortunately I've little doubt it'll be some sherry-drinking lounge-o who likes to kick back with a bit of the Eagles of a night.

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Postby mentalist (slight return) » 02 May 2007, 09:47

I agree. List B was a pearler (at least I hope that's the one you mean). Although I take offense (only in a 'bitter recriminations remix' sense) at the constant accusations around the place of lists being blatant attempts to garner votes.
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Postby harvey k-tel » 02 May 2007, 13:33

Sir John Coan wrote:
Jumper k wrote:I am outraged by the sheer ignorance of most voters, the lack of appreciation for anything remotely cutting edge and the inate conservatism that pervades the board.


I echo these sentiments to the letter.

I propose a CULL here at BCB. We entice all the uptight bores to one section of the board with a thread entitled 'Joni Mitchell - Picasso, My Love, My Passion et un coupe de l'echard de mon pere, hein?' - wait till they've all arrived, then blow up the thread and all the fuckers there to kingdom fucking come.

On top of that, I refuse to engage in discussion of any nature with anybody who favours the castrated, love-struck Beefheart over Pere Ubu in their most exciting and vital minutes.

I despair of you people, I really do. I hope we end up with a deserving winner, but unfortunately I've little doubt it'll be some sherry-drinking lounge-o who likes to kick back with a bit of the Eagles of a night.


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Postby Jumper k » 02 May 2007, 14:41

mentalist (slight return) wrote:I agree. List B was a pearler (at least I hope that's the one you mean). Although I take offense (only in a 'bitter recriminations remix' sense) at the constant accusations around the place of lists being blatant attempts to garner votes.

I agree totally, especially in view of the fact that nobody took any notice of my blatant attempts.
Its a travesty. Obviously next year I shall be including some dischordant art wank nonsense, more castrated folk and tedious bilge with some bint wailing about pregnancy or something.
I resign!

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Postby Ali » 02 May 2007, 17:47

I think all but about two of the lists I like are out now.

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Postby Nikki Gradual » 02 May 2007, 17:53

Ali wrote:I think all but about two of the lists I like are out now.


Tut tut, that's a shameful attempt to butter up the other Plate contestants to be nice to you. Mind you, I kind of agree, all my favourite lists are gone, too. There seems to be a huge voting bias towards any list that includes at least one example of mindnumbingly awful turgid US soft/country rock.
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Postby Jumper k » 02 May 2007, 18:11

Eric Soundtracks wrote:
Ali wrote:I think all but about two of the lists I like are out now.


Tut tut, that's a shameful attempt to butter up the other Plate contestants to be nice to you. Mind you, I kind of agree, all my favourite lists are gone, too. There seems to be a huge voting bias towards any list that includes at least one example of mindnumbingly awful turgid US soft/country rock.

And Roxyarsingmusic.

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Postby The Modernist » 02 May 2007, 18:15

Ali wrote:I think all but about two of the lists I like are out now.


A few more than that are still left in for me, but I know what you mean.

Of course ultimately these things are done on consensus, and consensus will always favour the tried and trusted and slightly bland. That's just how these things work.
I think any winning list will have to appeal to a core of American votes which often I've noticed tend to go the same way, the British votes on the other hand tend to be a bit all over the place. That means being attractive to certain sensibilities (more inclined towards traditionalism, less inclined towards pop or dance).
Note I said "a core" as I'm not trying to suggest that all American votes go the same way -that would be ridiculous, but there is still a tendency within a sizable minority which is enough to swing the outcome of most matches.

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Postby Velvis » 02 May 2007, 18:52

Velvis wrote:
I noticed a lot of people saying my list was the better list, but the other one had the Triffids. I guess I should check out this Triffids, song, given that it seems this one song is what put me out. I hope it's something decent and not some "Emperor's New Clothes" effect".


Pretty "generic eighties", I thought. You can have it.