THE BITTER RECRIMINATIONS THREAD 2006

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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 14 Mar 2006, 18:09

Strider wrote:This is my first BCB Cup and its really is a bit of silly fun don't you think. What is interesting for me to observe is the number of people whose basis for voting against a list is that it is too "canonical". If songs are great they are great despite how many people and critics say they are. No matter how many people say that "Rain" or "Gimme Shelter" or "Like A Rolling Stone" are great songs does not make them any less great and the converse is also true. What is one man's greatness is another man's mediocrity, I suppose. It just bothers me to see the number of folks voting against lists where they state that they like the artists and songs listed but then say its too "canonical". Too me, that just does not make sense.


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Postby beenieman » 14 Mar 2006, 20:21

Strider wrote:This is my first BCB Cup and its really is a bit of silly fun don't you think. What is interesting for me to observe is the number of people whose basis for voting against a list is that it is too "canonical". If songs are great they are great despite how many people and critics say they are. No matter how many people say that "Rain" or "Gimme Shelter" or "Like A Rolling Stone" are great songs does not make them any less great and the converse is also true. What is one man's greatness is another man's mediocrity, I suppose. It just bothers me to see the number of folks voting against lists where they state that they like the artists and songs listed but then say its too "canonical". Too me, that just does not make sense.


Are you sure they're voting against them? I've noted in my comments that a few lists are canonical or similar but still voted for them if I think they're the best list. I'm not sure people are voting against a list they like because of this?

It makes sense that the final winner will have the list that touches the most bases with the most of us rather than, say, a list dominated by reggae tunes.

So the further we progress the more "canonical" the lists will be.

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Postby Snarfyguy » 15 Mar 2006, 16:13

beenieman wrote:Are you sure they're voting against them? I've noted in my comments that a few lists are canonical or similar but still voted for them if I think they're the best list.


Someone in one of the current matches expressed relief that neither list contained 'Rain'. I think it's just a sign of fatigue at seeing the same song nominated so many times. Somehow, this turns into a backlash against it, and I agree with Strider - that doesn't make any sense.

A song can only seem less great because more people proclaim its greatness if you have very shallow, snobby ideas about what greatness is.
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Postby beenieman » 15 Mar 2006, 19:49

Snarfyguy wrote:
beenieman wrote:Are you sure they're voting against them? I've noted in my comments that a few lists are canonical or similar but still voted for them if I think they're the best list.


Someone in one of the current matches expressed relief that neither list contained 'Rain'. I think it's just a sign of fatigue at seeing the same song nominated so many times. Somehow, this turns into a backlash against it, and I agree with Strider - that doesn't make any sense.

A song can only seem less great because more people proclaim its greatness if you have very shallow, snobby ideas about what greatness is.


I'd be happy to see a list that doesn't include "Rain" cos it's a sub par Beatles song. Not because it's canonical. I didn't know it was.

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Postby Diamond Dog » 20 Mar 2006, 20:13

beenieman wrote:I'd be happy to see a list that doesn't include "Rain" cos it's a sub par Beatles song. Not because it's canonical. I didn't know it was.


Stupid man. Go and lie down now.
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Postby beenieman » 20 Mar 2006, 21:35

Diamond Dog wrote:
beenieman wrote:I'd be happy to see a list that doesn't include "Rain" cos it's a sub par Beatles song. Not because it's canonical. I didn't know it was.


Stupid man. Go and lie down now.


Can you post the canon for me please. That way there'll be no more mistakes from me in the future.

Thanks very much.

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Postby Google_[Bot] » 23 Mar 2006, 11:28

Snarfyguy wrote:A song can only seem less great because more people proclaim its greatness if you have very shallow, snobby ideas about what greatness is.


*Reluctantly puts hand up*

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Postby Diamond Dog » 01 Apr 2006, 07:59

beenieman wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
beenieman wrote:I'd be happy to see a list that doesn't include "Rain" cos it's a sub par Beatles song. Not because it's canonical. I didn't know it was.


Stupid man. Go and lie down now.


Can you post the canon for me please. That way there'll be no more mistakes from me in the future.

Thanks very much.


Do you want to know what I'm tired of? The word canon. It became the worthless buzzword for far too many on here. It was used in place of anything more expressive by lazy bastards unable to formulate their own ideas.

We ought to ban the word from all future posts in this forum - and expose some of the dunderheads for what they are - shallow, facile, moronic fuckwits.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 03 Apr 2006, 22:41

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Fuck the fucking lot of yous

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Postby German Dave » 03 Apr 2006, 23:05

John Coan wrote::evil:

Fuck the fucking lot of yous


you took it well, john. people notice things like that.
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Postby The Write Profile » 03 Apr 2006, 23:12

I'm not bitter, really, I got beaten by a list that covered all the BCB Bases and seems to improve with every new 5 (unlike mine, which has got to the stage of "what's on my stereo? Hmm...that'll do"). However, just like the All Blacks, I was hyped up as being a contender for the final, and even possible winner. "He's in with a chance, they said." Just like the All Blacks, I had a charmed run until the semi-finals, whereby I fell foul due to lack of preparation and poor tactics. Oh well, I'll look to the playoff for third with John Coan. :-D

Strange how many different comments you can get with one list, I had "too eclectic", "too narrowminded", "excellent", "total shite"....the whole spectrum.

All the best to the winner of my semi, I wish him well. Maybe he'll be the champion this year, who knows?
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 03 Apr 2006, 23:14

The Right Scarfie Profile wrote:Strange how many different comments you can get with one list, I had "too eclectic", "too narrowminded", "excellent", "total shite"....the whole spectrum.


True, very true. I mean, there is sort of a 'BCB Canon', but mucho diversity within that.

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Postby marios » 03 Apr 2006, 23:30

So, now it's Jeff K vs Strider for the Cup.

The experienced heavyweight Vs the young pretender to the throne.

Can Jeff do the impossible?

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Postby mentalist (slight return) » 04 Apr 2006, 01:02

i'm open to bribes, non consecutively numbered notes in a brown paper bag will do
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Postby cheifwhat » 12 Apr 2006, 15:04

The Right Scarfie Profile wrote:I'm not bitter, really, I got beaten by a list that covered all the BCB Bases and seems to improve with every new 5 (unlike mine, which has got to the stage of "what's on my stereo? Hmm...that'll do"). However, just like the All Blacks, I was hyped up as being a contender for the final, and even possible winner. "He's in with a chance, they said." Just like the All Blacks, I had a charmed run until the semi-finals, whereby I fell foul due to lack of preparation and poor tactics.


you are the cheifwhat of the second BCB cup.





in fact, stop copying me.
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Postby Prince Of Peace » 23 Jul 2006, 20:51

HA HA WANKERS
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