BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 11:44

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Uncle J wrote:Of course nobody who's actually IN the Cup is likely to agree with what Copehead says but he does make some valid points (altho' his constant banging on about Baby Huey is becoming tedious - surely if we're being swamped with obscurities he can find other examples).


I think it's natural that the lists get a bit more "obscure". Most of us have done this for several years, of course we want to see more variety in the lists.

Copehead's mistake is in not realising that nobody shares his crappy taste. He does a rant like this every year. It's as much of a Cup tradition as the appearance of 'Another Girl, Another Planet' or 'Use Me'.


Loads of people share my tastes.

They just aren't in the block vote of 20-30 that are deciding things now, in fact most of them haven't looked in on the cup for years.

People were shooting verbal jism over Lucifer Sam on the recent Barrett thread, Robert Johnson is one of the most important and interesting figures in the history of rock and Blues, Iron Maiden are one of the biggest selling rock acts of all time, the Midfield general song is funny and about the only piece of reasonable Big Beat not by Fat Boy Slim, the George Jones song is a country classic, The Fall song is unimpeachable, The BSP song is one of the finest modern rock songs there is and the Charlie Daniels band song is a laugh that will resonate with anyone in their 40s or 50s because of the period it was released.

I owned all of the songs so didn't need to google anything and I agonised about replacing the Devil Went Down to Georgia with Race with the Devil by gene Vincent, but I assumed people would enjoy having a laugh.

But people obviously don't want a laugh in the BCB Cup they want other people to seriously appraise how fucking cool their musical taste is.

What a fucking bore.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby funky_nomad » 30 Jan 2015, 11:47

whodathunkit wrote:The list wot won in 2005:-

Some Velvet Morning - Lee & Nancy
Another Girl, Another Planet - the Only Ones
I'm Always Touched By Your Presence Dear - Blondie
Atmosphere - Joy Division
Just My Imagination - the Temptations
Cherie - Suicide
People Get Ready - the Impressions
Heroes - David Bowie
Pressure Drop - Toots & the Maytals
Born To Lose - the Heartbreakers
Smash It Up (parts 1 & 2) - the Damned
Pale Blue Eyes - the Velvet Underground
Whole Wide World - Wreckless Eric
Little Black Egg - the Nightcrawlers
I Feel Love - Donna Summer
Nearly Lost You - Screaming Trees
Stand! - Sly and the Family Stone
Song To the Siren - This Mortal Coil
She Said Yeah - the Rolling Stones
Feed the Trees - Belly
Cindy Tells Me - Brian Eno
Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
The Ship Song - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Train From Kansas City - the Shangri Las
Motor Away - Guided By Voices
Teenage Kicks - the Undertones
Land - Patti Smith
Damaged Goods - Gang of Four
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Belle - Al Green
Who Knows Where the Time Goes - Sandy Denny
I Believe - the Buzzcocks
Teacher, Teacher - Rockpile
Mona Lisas and the Mad Hatters - Elton John
Autumn Stone - the Small Faces

There were 54 votes in the final.


A's selections are far too obvious

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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby funky_nomad » 30 Jan 2015, 11:48

Copehead wrote:What a fucking bore.

Indeed.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 11:53

whodathunkit wrote:The list wot won in 2005:-

Some Velvet Morning - Lee & Nancy
Another Girl, Another Planet - the Only Ones
I'm Always Touched By Your Presence Dear - Blondie
Atmosphere - Joy Division
Just My Imagination - the Temptations
Cherie - Suicide
People Get Ready - the Impressions
Heroes - David Bowie
Pressure Drop - Toots & the Maytals
Born To Lose - the Heartbreakers
Smash It Up (parts 1 & 2) - the Damned
Pale Blue Eyes - the Velvet Underground
Whole Wide World - Wreckless Eric
Little Black Egg - the Nightcrawlers
I Feel Love - Donna Summer
Nearly Lost You - Screaming Trees
Stand! - Sly and the Family Stone
Song To the Siren - This Mortal Coil
She Said Yeah - the Rolling Stones
Feed the Trees - Belly
Cindy Tells Me - Brian Eno
Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
The Ship Song - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Train From Kansas City - the Shangri Las
Motor Away - Guided By Voices
Teenage Kicks - the Undertones
Land - Patti Smith
Damaged Goods - Gang of Four
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Belle - Al Green
Who Knows Where the Time Goes - Sandy Denny
I Believe - the Buzzcocks
Teacher, Teacher - Rockpile
Mona Lisas and the Mad Hatters - Elton John
Autumn Stone - the Small Faces

There were 54 votes in the final.

Nothing too obscure (and by that I don't just mean a song Copey's never heard) but then the winning list never is.


I own the majority of songs on that list, and that would give me confidence to check out the ones I don't know. There is one band I haven't heard of.

That is the kind of list we don't really see any more

Now I am lucky if there is an artist I actually have in my collection at all, if I see one I mentally break down in tears of gratitude.

In past years there was always a drop off in voting by the final, it will be interesting to see what the voting numbers in the final will be this year, but we are already below that number.

I also imagine the lists will become a little more mainstream as people scrabble around for votes in later rounds this year.

But honestly who didn't read this years lists with amounting sense of incredulity leading to maniacal laughter?

It was like some sort of cosmic joke was being played

is it actually a joke?????? :?
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 11:53

funky_nomad wrote:
whodathunkit wrote:The list wot won in 2005:-

Some Velvet Morning - Lee & Nancy
Another Girl, Another Planet - the Only Ones
I'm Always Touched By Your Presence Dear - Blondie
Atmosphere - Joy Division
Just My Imagination - the Temptations
Cherie - Suicide
People Get Ready - the Impressions
Heroes - David Bowie
Pressure Drop - Toots & the Maytals
Born To Lose - the Heartbreakers
Smash It Up (parts 1 & 2) - the Damned
Pale Blue Eyes - the Velvet Underground
Whole Wide World - Wreckless Eric
Little Black Egg - the Nightcrawlers
I Feel Love - Donna Summer
Nearly Lost You - Screaming Trees
Stand! - Sly and the Family Stone
Song To the Siren - This Mortal Coil
She Said Yeah - the Rolling Stones
Feed the Trees - Belly
Cindy Tells Me - Brian Eno
Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
The Ship Song - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Train From Kansas City - the Shangri Las
Motor Away - Guided By Voices
Teenage Kicks - the Undertones
Land - Patti Smith
Damaged Goods - Gang of Four
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Belle - Al Green
Who Knows Where the Time Goes - Sandy Denny
I Believe - the Buzzcocks
Teacher, Teacher - Rockpile
Mona Lisas and the Mad Hatters - Elton John
Autumn Stone - the Small Faces

There were 54 votes in the final.


A's selections are far too obvious

B


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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby funky_nomad » 30 Jan 2015, 11:55

Copehead wrote:But honestly who didn't read this years lists with amounting sense of incredulity leading to maniacal laughter?

Don't worry, I'm used to it.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby dgs » 30 Jan 2015, 11:58

funky_nomad wrote:
Copehead wrote:But honestly who didn't read this years lists with amounting sense of incredulity leading to maniacal laughter?

Don't worry, I'm used to it.

i can vouch for that.
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Postby never/ever » 30 Jan 2015, 12:00

What I find getting tedious is the number of demands that is being made of the voters.
Got to listen to everything to be fair to the person compiling the list. Have to give a reason why you vote a certain way. We may as well sign a letter of content first to be fair and impartial to every entry, to spend time beyond availability and be particularly mindful of the way we post criticism around here. Humbug.

The suppositions being made at regular intervals in various cups never cease up. There's always so e common enemy at work, whether it be 'chin-strokers', block-voters or just lazy people that just pick out what they like and know. Either which way, as long as people VOTE these things continue to draw people back here for as long as people want to play these things.
I vote for what I fucking like. Not because it is cool but because I like it, challenges me or just appeases me. I don't need to put that on paper, neither should anyone else. For anyone suggesting different- bugger off.

For years this Cup has established what wins around here. Either you play to win or play for pride. I've always chosen the latter, happy enough with an accolade from someone to pick up something from my list to run with.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 12:07

I still maintain that in previous years lists were leavened with well known songs that didn't require googling and gave you an idea of where the list was coming from.

But Never/ever is right that the Cup has defined popularity and this has lead to a sort of cup list redux that we see now.

A parody of a cup list from a few years back because this is what people think wins and they want to win.

I don't doubt that it actually suits them as well because they must actually like this style of list and music.
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Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 12:13

I also maintain that a few years ago my list wouldn't have stood out at all.

It is a series of canon artists - Barrett, Johnson, Jones, Fall; a more recent pick - BSP, a bit of dance music for G and a couple of curve balls to show you can think outside the box.

That is what lists used to look like, if perhaps not quite so rocktastic.
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Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 12:19

The Fish wrote:Iron Maiden and Charlie Daniels :shock: If that is the best country "devil" song you can find then you haven't looked very hard. Off the top of my head Satan Is Real - The Louvin Brothers

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That is a good call Fish but I picked from my record collection rather than the wider musical universe.

I thought George Jones covered good country song about the Devil didn't he? Perhaps George Jones isn't considered Country with a capital C.

The Charlie Daniels band was in there for cheese factor 10, the Cotton Eyed Joe of its day, used have me dancing around as a nipper.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Goat Boy » 30 Jan 2015, 12:33

Has Copey been at the Kult Cola?
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Postby Toby » 30 Jan 2015, 12:35

I think porn sites have been banned on the rig.

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Postby Earl E. Eel » 30 Jan 2015, 12:36

it's fucking Cult Cola
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I've got more Disky product

a label like Dutch Disky

One comp to avoid, though, is Disky's "Best of the 70's"

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Postby Goat Boy » 30 Jan 2015, 12:38

Uncle J wrote:it's fucking Cult Cola


Ok, KUNT
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Postby fange » 30 Jan 2015, 12:40

Uncle J wrote:it's fucking Cult Cola


So?
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Postby Earl E. Eel » 30 Jan 2015, 12:44

I think people think it looks more authentically Danish if it starts with a 'K'.

Whereas, of course, they're all about wanting to look and sound American.

Anyway the stuff tastes foul, according to Fartpants who was there the other day.
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby fange » 30 Jan 2015, 12:48

I think spelling it with a K just extracts a little urine out of the whole thing, that's all.
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Postby Copehead » 30 Jan 2015, 12:55

Toby wrote:I think porn sites have been banned on the rig.


It's a ship.

and porn sites have always been banned, a sacking offence in fact.

And I am at home at the moment

Other than that
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Re: BCB Cup 2015 Round 1 Match 16 - What a Cope-Out

Postby Goat Boy » 30 Jan 2015, 13:00

Uncle J wrote:I think people think it looks more authentically Danish if it starts with a 'K'.

Whereas, of course, they're all about wanting to look and sound American.

Anyway the stuff tastes foul, according to Fartpants who was there the other day.


I just amended the spelling to make it look a bit sillier, that's all!
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