UK cities

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Manchester
20
11%
Glasgow
30
17%
Bristol
18
10%
Sheffield
8
4%
Edinburgh
39
22%
Liverpool
27
15%
Birmingham
6
3%
Leeds
12
7%
Newcastle
18
10%
 
Total votes: 178

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Re: UK cities

Postby der nister » 17 Sep 2012, 21:41

Where are Belfast, Cardiff and Derry?
It's kinda depressing for a music forum to be proud of not knowing musicians.

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Re: UK cities

Postby Jude » 17 Sep 2012, 22:57

zphage wrote:Where are Belfast, Cardiff and Derry?

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Re: UK cities

Postby der nister » 18 Sep 2012, 15:27

Thank you

Gorts Can we fix the thread title: Some English and Scottish Cities?
It's kinda depressing for a music forum to be proud of not knowing musicians.

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Re: UK cities

Postby trans-chigley express » 20 Sep 2012, 23:52

inthenextlife wrote:How the hell has Liverpool got more votes than Manchester?! Sheesh!


To a tourist I think Liverpool has far, far more appeal than Manchester. I'm not sure that Manchester has any appeal to an overseas visitor who has never heard of Coronation Street.

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Re: UK cities

Postby Bungo the Mungo » 21 Sep 2012, 02:23

It's our second musical city (Liverpool attracts a shitload of visitors for The Beatles, of course, but no-one else).

Fans of The Smiths, Oasis and Joy Division come from all over the place to see those rainy streets.

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Re: UK cities

Postby trans-chigley express » 21 Sep 2012, 09:13

Sir John Coan wrote:It's our second musical city (Liverpool attracts a shitload of visitors for The Beatles, of course, but no-one else).


It's also the second most impressive City in England for architecture. Manchester has nothing to compare.

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Re: UK cities

Postby The Prof » 21 Sep 2012, 11:58

trans-chigley express wrote:Manchester has nothing to compare.


I haven't time now.. but I beg to differ.

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Re: UK cities

Postby trans-chigley express » 21 Sep 2012, 23:53

The Prof wrote:
trans-chigley express wrote:Manchester has nothing to compare.


I haven't time now.. but I beg to differ.


Maybe I'm being unfair to Manchester but as a regular visitor to both cities on my UK trips to see family I've never been too impressed with Manchester which I find a bit bleak and dreary. I'd be interested to see what you come up in its defence.

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Re: UK cities

Postby The Prof » 22 Sep 2012, 01:49

'Scuse the copy & paste job.

Manchester;

Birthplace of the industrial revolution, Manchester has been at the forefront of many social movements, bringing major issues to the world’s attention, rightfully claiming to be a city of firsts. So many of the ideas that continue to shape our world first found their voice in Manchester - Vegetarianism, the passenger railway station, the computer, the public lending library, the labour movement, the trade union movement, the Suffragettes, the cooperative movement and England’s professional football league were all created in Manchester.

the rest is here;

http://www.manchestercentral.co.uk/history-of-manchester

This thread has taken a Liverpool V Manchester turn... which is OK.

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Re: UK cities

Postby trans-chigley express » 22 Sep 2012, 02:16

The thing is I'm well aware of the history of Manchester but that doesn't necessarily make it a good tourist destination and I have to agree with Bleep's comment on the previous page. There's a great musum of Science and Industry that I took my son to on my last visit to teach him a bit of the area's past (and play around with big engines and stuff) but the city itself is not a particularly interesting place to visit unless you're really into its history. Liverpool has both history and visual splendour, there's plenty to admire without knowing about the past.

And do fans of The Smiths, Oasis and Joy Division really come to see its rainy streets? And that's another thing, it really does live up to its reputation for lousy weather. Even when the surrounding area is bathed in glorious sunshine there always seems to be dark rain clouds hanging over the city.


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This thread has taken a Liverpool V Manchester turn... which is OK.

Which is timely for the match on Sunday when Manchester will likely gets its own back for my slagging off :)

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Re: UK cities

Postby German Dave » 22 Sep 2012, 09:45

Glasgow - I only spent one weekend in Glasgow but I loved every second of it. The city was visually striking, friendly and very vibey. And it has John Rennie Macintosh. Shame about all that sectarian shite but i can honestly say it was never once a feature of my visit.

Liverpool - The best of places, the worst of places. Liverpool is like my mum - I can slag her to high heaven as much as I want but if you do I'll punch you in the throat. Whilst it can sometimes feel small-minded and inward-looking there really does seem to be magic dust in the air. Just go for a pint in the Roscoe Head or the Belvedere and tell me you don't love Liverpool.

[I've lived in Manchester too and it is a good place to live, even if it has less to offer as a tourist destination. The difference between Liverpool and Manchester (other than the fact that Liverpool is noticeably more visually striking) is that it is very important to Manchester to be important whereas it is very important to Liverpool to be different. Manchester is suspicious of eccentricity whereas Liverpool embraces it - it's just more carefree. Essentially, Manchester is always checking itself out in the mirror whilst Liverpool skins up in the corner and puts another Arthur Lee song on the jukey.]

Bristol - Cool and funky, and no doubt less racist than the north. . Don't know it that well but I always love it when I'm there. I should go more often.
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Re: UK cities

Postby bhoywonder » 22 Sep 2012, 13:38

Clint Planet wrote:Bristol - Cool and funky, and no doubt less racist than the north. . Don't know it that well but I always love it when I'm there. I should go more often.


Yes, you should.

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Re: UK cities

Postby inthenextlife » 22 Sep 2012, 15:36

Sir John Coan wrote:Indeed.

And Scousers have less airs and graces than the Mancs.

You have got to be pulling my plonker with that massive generalisation!?
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Postby Hugh » 22 Sep 2012, 15:40

Clint Planet wrote: And it has John Rennie Macintosh.


Charles Rennie Mackintosh's cousin?

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Re: UK cities

Postby Bungo the Mungo » 22 Sep 2012, 16:10

inthenextlife wrote:
Sir John Coan wrote:Indeed.

And Scousers have less airs and graces than the Mancs.

You have got to be pulling my plonker with that massive generalisation!?


I think Andy feels the same...

Clint Planet wrote:...it is very important to Manchester to be important whereas it is very important to Liverpool to be different. Manchester is suspicious of eccentricity whereas Liverpool embraces it - it's just more carefree. Essentially, Manchester is always checking itself out in the mirror whilst Liverpool skins up in the corner and puts another Arthur Lee song on the jukey.

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Re: UK cities

Postby German Dave » 22 Sep 2012, 16:10

Hugh wrote:
Clint Planet wrote: And it has John Rennie Macintosh.


Charles Rennie Mackintosh's cousin?


That's the chap.
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Postby The Prof » 22 Sep 2012, 22:38

trans-chigley express wrote:The thing is I'm well aware of the history of Manchester but that doesn't necessarily make it a good tourist destination


Fair enough.
I was trying to put forward the case for Manchester's cultural importance but on balance I would prefer to spend more time in Liverpool

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Re: UK cities

Postby soundchaser » 24 Sep 2012, 02:56

I'm from the (deep) south coast, so even Bristol is way north for me :D. My daughter went to uni in Birmingham, so I've spent a bit of time there (the Balti triangle was excellent.). Southampton is the closest city for me, but I wouldn't go there unless it was for a gig, or to take my wife shopping.

I'm not really a city boy and I'm happier to be by the beach and have the New Forest on my doorstep. If we're going to travel, it's likely to be south to Tenerife, rather than north. And if I am driving any distance, it's usually west towards Devon, or east towards London.

However, saying that, we are off up north to Liverpool in a few weeks to do the whole Beatles thing and I'm looking forward to that immensely, even if it will be just as music tourists. I plan to tour the UK one day, but I imagine it will be more of a coastal town journey, as cities generally aren't my thing...go on, call me a southern Nancy-boy: it's all true ;).

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Re: UK cities

Postby Minnie the Minx » 24 Sep 2012, 21:49

I hate Manchester. London is alright in small doses. I'm fonder of Leeds than I used to be. I like drinking in Liverpool in a pub when I can't see the outside.Once I see the outside I get depressed. Bristol and Bath are both lush. Sheffield is horrible. Birmingham is best driven through.
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Re: UK cities

Postby Nick » 03 Jan 2013, 10:02

I've spent a lot of time in both Liverpool and Manchester over the past three years, and I now live in Manchester. For live music, it seems to me that Manchester definitely has the edge. There's a plethora of very good venues, including some cracking small ones that are full of character. And the number of gigs going on, and the breadth of bands playing, make it a very stimulating place to be. I'm seeing more live music now than at any time since my early twenties.

CatnHat and I have so many good gigs lined up for the next couple of months, but to be honest, we could easily be going to twice the number if we wanted to.
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