New now reading

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
User avatar
The Modernist
2018 BCB Cup Champ!
Posts: 11021
Joined: 13 Apr 2014, 20:42

Re: New now reading

Postby The Modernist » 29 Jan 2018, 18:42

The Modernist wrote:Image

Quite enjoying this. At times it gets a bit swamped in detail, but he certainly knows his stuff. Maybe lacking a bit in the kind of insights a Reynolds or Savage would've bought to the table, but overall very good so far.


I've finished this now. If ever a book needed a good editor it was this; it was unclear to me what some of the chapters were even meant to be about. It needed a far firmer sense of purpose and clarity. That said, he does really know his stuff and it does send you to plenty of things to discover.

User avatar
quix
Posts: 6456
Joined: 11 Apr 2007, 13:49
Location: La la land

Re: New now reading

Postby quix » 04 Feb 2018, 09:54

I have high hopes for this. Anyone read it?

Image

User avatar
Harvey K-Tel
Long Player
Posts: 39618
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 23:20
Location: 1220 on your AM dial

Re: New now reading

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 05 Feb 2018, 14:18

Image

This is really fantastic. A collection of aphorisms that honestly reads like a whole bunch of really well-written tweets. Highly recommended.

Some excerpts:

“The trouble with setting goals is that you’re constantly working toward what you used to want.”

“Biographies should also contain the events that failed to foreshadow.”

“The trouble with letting people see you at your worst isn't that they'll remember; it's that you'll remember.”
If you've got nothing to do, don't do it here.

User avatar
Copehead
BCB Cup Stalinist
Posts: 23524
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 18:51
Location: at sea

Re: New now reading

Postby Copehead » 05 Feb 2018, 15:14

Harvey K-Tel wrote:Image

This is really fantastic. A collection of aphorisms that honestly reads like a whole bunch of really well-written tweets. Highly recommended.

Some excerpts:

“The trouble with setting goals is that you’re constantly working toward what you used to want.”

“Biographies should also contain the events that failed to foreshadow.”

“The trouble with letting people see you at your worst isn't that they'll remember; it's that you'll remember.”


Beer isn't distilled at all, stupid analogy, fancy putting that on the front of the book
And sometimes I ride on bus x82, say what!

Image

Bear baiting & dog fights a speciality.

User avatar
Minnie the Minx
funky thigh collector
Posts: 29435
Joined: 29 Dec 2006, 16:00
Location: In the naughty North and in the sexy South

Re: New now reading

Postby Minnie the Minx » 05 Feb 2018, 16:08

Copehead wrote:
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Image

This is really fantastic. A collection of aphorisms that honestly reads like a whole bunch of really well-written tweets. Highly recommended.

Some excerpts:

“The trouble with setting goals is that you’re constantly working toward what you used to want.”

“Biographies should also contain the events that failed to foreshadow.”

“The trouble with letting people see you at your worst isn't that they'll remember; it's that you'll remember.”


Beer isn't distilled at all, stupid analogy, fancy putting that on the front of the book


Oh, shut up you dullard.
You come at the Queen, you best not miss.

Dr Markus wrote:
Someone in your line of work usually as their own man cave aka the shed we're they can potter around fixing stuff or something don't they?

User avatar
northernsky
Posts: 2256
Joined: 08 Aug 2005, 10:18
Location: East of Sweden

Re: New now reading

Postby northernsky » 05 Feb 2018, 17:46

quix wrote:I have high hopes for this. Anyone read it?

Image


Yes, it’s terrific. Big sister and I managed to buy it for one another as Christmas presents. :|

User avatar
quix
Posts: 6456
Joined: 11 Apr 2007, 13:49
Location: La la land

Re: New now reading

Postby quix » 05 Feb 2018, 20:00

northernsky wrote:
quix wrote:I have high hopes for this. Anyone read it?

Image


Yes, it’s terrific. Big sister and I managed to buy it for one another as Christmas presents. :|



Yep. So far so good. I shall report back when it’s done. :D

User avatar
Ray K.
Posts: 5608
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 21:06
Location: Philadelphia PA

Re: New now reading

Postby Ray K. » 05 Feb 2018, 20:09

Just about to finished Volume 2 of Karl Ove Knausgaard's "My Struggle".... this guy may be a Norwegian but, damn it, this (and the first volume) cut damn close to home. This would have never worked for me at 20 but at 48 I'm hooked.

User avatar
Darkness_Fish
Posts: 4977
Joined: 27 Jul 2015, 09:58

Re: New now reading

Postby Darkness_Fish » 06 Feb 2018, 15:59

Image
Like fast-moving clouds casting shadows against a hillside, the melody-loop shuddered with a sense of the sublime, the awful unknowable majesty of the world.

User avatar
Pansy Puff
Posts: 8022
Joined: 22 Feb 2012, 21:10
Location: Under the watchful eye of the Clive police

Re: New now reading

Postby Pansy Puff » 06 Feb 2018, 16:04

Copehead wrote:
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Image

This is really fantastic. A collection of aphorisms that honestly reads like a whole bunch of really well-written tweets. Highly recommended.

Some excerpts:

“The trouble with setting goals is that you’re constantly working toward what you used to want.”

“Biographies should also contain the events that failed to foreshadow.”

“The trouble with letting people see you at your worst isn't that they'll remember; it's that you'll remember.”


Beer isn't distilled at all, stupid analogy, fancy putting that on the front of the book

The quote doesn't suggest beer is distilled. It suggests whisky is distilled.
“He’s got the memory of an elephant ... and the trophy cabinet of one too.”

User avatar
Copehead
BCB Cup Stalinist
Posts: 23524
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 18:51
Location: at sea

Re: New now reading

Postby Copehead » 06 Feb 2018, 22:44

K wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Image

This is really fantastic. A collection of aphorisms that honestly reads like a whole bunch of really well-written tweets. Highly recommended.

Some excerpts:

“The trouble with setting goals is that you’re constantly working toward what you used to want.”

“Biographies should also contain the events that failed to foreshadow.”

“The trouble with letting people see you at your worst isn't that they'll remember; it's that you'll remember.”


Beer isn't distilled at all, stupid analogy, fancy putting that on the front of the book

The quote doesn't suggest beer is distilled. It suggests whisky is distilled.


Whisky isn't twice distilled either, it is generally continuously distilled until as much of the ethanol as possible is taken out of the distilling liquid. I was at Laphroig a year ago and saw the process. Some Whiskey is double or triple distilled but it doesn't make it better so I don't understand that at all. It smacks of trying to be over clever but not understanding your subject, something I know a lot about.

Face it, it is a crap analogy. Whisky not beer I get but why bring distillation into it and confuse matters?

Puts me off reading the book, if it is a book of aphorisms and the one of the front is stupid, even if the writer didn't write it, it suggests what's inside isn't worth your time.

I'll stick with Nietzsche or Camus.
And sometimes I ride on bus x82, say what!

Image

Bear baiting & dog fights a speciality.

User avatar
Harvey K-Tel
Long Player
Posts: 39618
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 23:20
Location: 1220 on your AM dial

Re: New now reading

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 07 Feb 2018, 01:56

You need to loosen up, man.

For one thing, that quote on the cover is a blurb, not an aphorism, and for another, if you can't understand the idea of the distillation of prose then I don't think it's worth discussing modern literature with you.

Sail on.
If you've got nothing to do, don't do it here.

User avatar
LeBaron
Diamond Geezer
Posts: 42529
Joined: 18 Jul 2003, 05:38
Location: Impregnable Citadel of Technicality

Re: New now reading

Postby LeBaron » 07 Feb 2018, 02:46

I don't know what the last thing I reported was. I got hung up/stuck on Waverley and finally polished it off over the holidays. It was interesting, and I'm glad I read it, but it wasn't my bag. Probably don't need any more Scott in my life.

Then I read Shelley's Frankenstein, which I had never read before and really enjoyable. It actually took me by surprise, I don't know what I expected.

Yesterday I finished Austen's Emma. It was my least favorite of those I read, but probably the best one to re-read.

Onward to Persuasion . . .
Quaco wrote:Are you fucking high?

take5_d_shorterer wrote:If John Bonham simply didn't listen to enough Tommy Johnson or Blind Willie Mctell, that's his doing.

User avatar
Snarfyguy
Dominated by the Obscure
Posts: 52563
Joined: 21 Jul 2003, 19:04
Location: New York

Re: New now reading

Postby Snarfyguy » 07 Feb 2018, 03:19

Very Stable Baron wrote:Yesterday I finished Austen's Emma. It was my least favorite of those I read, but probably the best one to re-read.

Onward to Persuasion . . .

Haven't read her in decades, but I recall deciding the ones with one-word titles were awful and the rest were good. Best of luck!
Jimbo wrote:Look, all I know is pretty much what I get from Robert Parry over at Consortium News.

User avatar
Copehead
BCB Cup Stalinist
Posts: 23524
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 18:51
Location: at sea

Re: New now reading

Postby Copehead » 07 Feb 2018, 09:45

Harvey K-Tel wrote:You need to loosen up, man.

For one thing, that quote on the cover is a blurb, not an aphorism, and for another, if you can't understand the idea of the distillation of prose then I don't think it's worth discussing modern literature with you.

Sail on.


It wasn't a problem of comprehension of what was written it was thinking that it was bloody awfully written and not a good way to sell your book.

And I am glad you thought its pretensions to aphorism failed too.
And sometimes I ride on bus x82, say what!

Image

Bear baiting & dog fights a speciality.

User avatar
mission
Posts: 2146
Joined: 04 Apr 2008, 13:39

Re: New now reading

Postby mission » 07 Feb 2018, 12:25

Read again what Harvey wrote. You aren't getting it quite right. Well, at all right, actually.

I know it's not in the Copehead playbook, but occasionally it pays to admit you may have come into error and then gracefully move on.
Good.

User avatar
Toby
Arsehole all Erect
Posts: 22855
Joined: 28 Jul 2003, 23:13
Contact:

Re: New now reading

Postby Toby » 07 Feb 2018, 12:42

Image

Curious debut novel weaving about an 80 year old female protagonist reflecting on growing up during WW2. A bit of a page-turner.

User avatar
Copehead
BCB Cup Stalinist
Posts: 23524
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 18:51
Location: at sea

Re: New now reading

Postby Copehead » 07 Feb 2018, 13:15

mission wrote:Read again what Harvey wrote. You aren't getting it quite right. Well, at all right, actually.

I know it's not in the Copehead playbook, but occasionally it pays to admit you may have come into error and then gracefully move on.


I read what he wrote, I disagree. It is confused, confusing and has put me off a book I probably wouldn't touch with a bargepole anyway, because it obviously thinks it is cleverer than it actually is if they think that that is a good blurb.

Whisky rather than beer is pretty mundane or even downright hackneyed, it clunks badly enough, to then shove in something about double distilling, even as a metaphor for aphorism writing, just adds further clunking, why double distilling instead of distilling?

The whole thinks clunks like an old car, I hate it and telling me I have misunderstood something that is that banal and easy to understand shows that you do not understand what I am saying; so I will waste no more time with people who think that that crap is good writing, you obviously neither know anything about good, pithy writing and that book is probably about your level. Good day.
And sometimes I ride on bus x82, say what!

Image

Bear baiting & dog fights a speciality.

User avatar
mission
Posts: 2146
Joined: 04 Apr 2008, 13:39

Re: New now reading

Postby mission » 07 Feb 2018, 13:41

I didn't say it was good writing. In fact, I rather agree with you that it is poor writing.

I just said you should reread what Harvey wrote. He said the blurb was just blurb and had no pretensions toward the aphoristic.

You leapt, as is your way, to a conclusion about what Harvey was saying that was (a) incorrect and (b) actually designed to further your own specious, ill-advised and cranky arguments (again, as is your wont).

You did it again when you dismissed what I had to say. You imagined I was commenting on the literary quality of some shitty bumf and then used the fruit of your imagination against me.

There was nothing technically wrong with the blurb's alcoholic metaphor. It is a small piece of promotional writing, not a sample of or indication of the contents of the book itself.

You are more than welcome to literally judge a book by its cover, but don't imagine you can bluster over your mistakes with tales of your trip to a distillery (just the sort of appeal to authority or pretence at expertise dickrashes like you so love) when everyone who has paid attention realises you just fucked up a bit.

Over nothing of any importance.

Sail, as the man said, on.
Good.

User avatar
Harvey K-Tel
Long Player
Posts: 39618
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 23:20
Location: 1220 on your AM dial

Re: New now reading

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 07 Feb 2018, 14:41

Remind me to not post pictures of book covers with editorially questionable blurbs on them.

For fuck's sake.
If you've got nothing to do, don't do it here.