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Re: New now reading

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Re: New now reading

Postby rorebhoy » 23 Nov 2019, 23:47

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A mighty book - nearly 900 pages. Excellent thus far, going right back to the very start.


It's a great book without a doubt. Tim Pat is an excellent historian. I've enjoyed all his books. All well worth looking out for.

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Re: New now reading

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Jan 2020, 19:39

Michael Cox "Zonal Marking : The Making of Modern European Football"

The idea is to explain how European football has evolved since the 50's (roughly) and what caused that evolution and where it first happened. Which is a perfectly reasonable and interesting premise. But... it seems to have got stuck in the (sometimes) inevitable "It only evolved if it was successful" schtick - ignoring the advances from lesser lights which certainly changed the game but weren't necessarily successful for the team/country that employed them (even though the reason for that failure maybe any manner of things, not just the tactics etc).

I shall persevere because some of it so far has been very enlightening.

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Re: New now reading

Postby FOR5 » 04 Jan 2020, 16:27

Diamond Dog wrote:Michael Cox "Zonal Marking : The Making of Modern European Football"

The idea is to explain how European football has evolved since the 50's (roughly) and what caused that evolution and where it first happened. Which is a perfectly reasonable and interesting premise. But... it seems to have got stuck in the (sometimes) inevitable "It only evolved if it was successful" schtick - ignoring the advances from lesser lights which certainly changed the game but weren't necessarily successful for the team/country that employed them (even though the reason for that failure maybe any manner of things, not just the tactics etc).

I shall persevere because some of it so far has been very enlightening.

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If you wanna get bogged down in that stuff there are other books out there, this does what it says on the tin as it were, similar to his earlier book 'The Mixer'
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Re: New now reading

Postby Jimbo » 05 Jan 2020, 09:25

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Almost done here Felix.

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Re: New now reading

Postby Diamond Dog » 05 Jan 2020, 17:03

FOR5 wrote:
If you wanna get bogged down in that stuff there are other books out there, this does what it says on the tin as it were, '


To be fair it doesn't, on a number of occasions. It spends countless pages comparing the club careers of Platini & Zidane, without once mentioning tactics or strategy, for instance.

A book on that subject may be very interesting but it really has very little (if anything) to do with "The Making Of Modern European Football". And the book cover itself says "France 2000-2004" as one of its seven 'examples'... what does that have to do with Platini?
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Re: New now reading

Postby Diamond Dog » 10 Jan 2020, 13:10

Sarah Churchwell "Behold America : A History of America First and the American Dream"

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Re: New now reading

Postby Jimbo » 14 Jan 2020, 04:14

Just finished listening to this fictional account about the Battle of Vicksburg.

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