Copehead's RWC thread NOW IN ITS 14TH GREAT YEAR

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Re: Copehead's RWC thread NOW IN ITS 14TH GREAT YEAR

Postby Copehead » 26 Nov 2017, 12:56

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andymacandy wrote:Carnage. We are a great side now. And with plenty of room to improve too!


Yeah. great play by Scotland, particularly the expansive manner in which they took it to Australia. I honestly didn't think they had that sort of match in them. Meanwhile, the ABs ended a largely perfunctory end-of-year tour with a perfunctory win over a Welsh side that promised somewhat but ultimately lacked the ticker to take it to them for more than 60 minutes. That said, it was good to see Ioane score two tries and look dangerous throughout- he's been the "find" of the season and he will only get better as he continues to play at the top level. It hasn't been a vintage ABs side, but they've had their moments throughout the year. There was probably only one match--the 57-0 win against South Africa--where everything clicked, most of their other games were impressive in patches at best.


This isn't a vintage ABs side, I think most sides think they have a chance and even a Welsh side decimated by injuries kept the score line respectableish.

Scotland have a great back line but I think they will be ground down by stronger packs like Ireland and England but they are back at the top table of international rugby which is good to see.

I thought the red card was very soft, it was all about outcome rather than intent, if you watch the game both sides cleared out rucks in a similar fashion Kepu just managed to connect with a head rather than a body, it was reckless and I don't think refs have much leeway with hits to the head these days but he wasn't doing anything that other players on both sides did and received not even a penalty because they collided with trunk rather than head.

But Scotland really went for the jugular and they had the quality to actually make it count
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Postby Copehead » 03 Dec 2017, 10:20

Wales vs SA wasn't a quality game but it was an exciting game, what a start by Wales and their variation in attack and kicking game were superb. But then the big Boks ground there was into the lead so full marks to what was largely a 2nd/3rd string Welsh side to come back to get the win and close out the last 20 mins.

Wales had about 4 1st XV players on that field, AWJ, Faletau, 1/2p and Biggar, and one on the bench and we beat a side we hadn't beaten in 100 years until a few years ago, so I would say that was a solid performance

Let's hope the injury crisis has lifted by the 6N
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Postby andymacandy » 03 Dec 2017, 11:23

Copehead wrote:Wales vs SA wasn't a quality game but it was an exciting game, what a start by Wales and their variation in attack and kicking game were superb. But then the big Boks ground there was into the lead so full marks to what was largely a 2nd/3rd string Welsh side to come back to get the win and close out the last 20 mins.

Wales had about 4 1st XV players on that field, AWJ, Faletau, 1/2p and Biggar, and one on the bench and we beat a side we hadn't beaten in 100 years until a few years ago, so I would say that was a solid performance

Let's hope the injury crisis has lifted by the 6N

I was suprised that SA did come back into the game so well, and equally surprised that having done so they then subbed off the front row that could have won them the game. Still, a good scalp for Wales, and a needed one, after a mixed set of tests.
SA losing pushes Scotland up to 5th in the IBR rankings. Nosebleed!
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Copehead wrote:Wales vs SA wasn't a quality game but it was an exciting game, what a start by Wales and their variation in attack and kicking game were superb. But then the big Boks ground there was into the lead so full marks to what was largely a 2nd/3rd string Welsh side to come back to get the win and close out the last 20 mins.

Wales had about 4 1st XV players on that field, AWJ, Faletau, 1/2p and Biggar, and one on the bench and we beat a side we hadn't beaten in 100 years until a few years ago, so I would say that was a solid performance

Let's hope the injury crisis has lifted by the 6N

I was suprised that SA did come back into the game so well, and equally surprised that having done so they then subbed off the front row that could have won them the game. Still, a good scalp for Wales, and a needed one, after a mixed set of tests.
SA losing pushes Scotland up to 5th in the IBR rankings. Nosebleed!


Wales Scotland first up in the 6N should be a corker, depending on the injury situation for both sides.
But just seeing Hogg vs Liam Williams would be worth the ticket
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Postby andymacandy » 24 Dec 2017, 14:15

Tight defensive game at the Athletic Ground Richmond yesterday.
London Scottish 52-Bedford 52.
And they say NH rugby isn't exciting!

(Good game at Murrayfield too!)
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andymacandy wrote:Tight defensive game at the Athletic Ground Richmond yesterday.
London Scottish 52-Bedford 52.
And they say NH rugby isn't exciting!

(Good game at Murrayfield too!)


I love watching rugby outside the top flight, specifically my team Ampthill who I have played for and followed as a spectator from the depths of the East Midlands divisions to National 1. It is great watching them play the likes of Rosslyn Park and Blackheath and at this level all sides try and score tries and play attacking rugby.

London Scottish are a great story, going bust and fighting their way all the way back up the divisions like Richmond, and I used to live in Bedford so I have seen them loads of times, especially when they were in the Premiership.

But I'd always prefer to watch Ampthill these days.
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Postby The Write Profile » 27 Dec 2017, 03:03

No Keiran Read? That's a big call. It hasn't been the best ABS year, but whenever they did play well it was down to his work ethic: he was the engine room and had a surprising amount of pace to burn. I also reckon Reiko Iaone had a phenomenal first year of international rugby. He deserves inclusion as he brought something extra every time he was picked.

That said, there's little quibbling with most of your picks.
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The Write Profile wrote:No Keiran Read? That's a big call. It hasn't been the best ABS year, but whenever they did play well it was down to his work ethic: he was the engine room and had a surprising amount of pace to burn. I also reckon Reiko Iaone had a phenomenal first year of international rugby. He deserves inclusion as he brought something extra every time he was picked.

That said, there's little quibbling with most of your picks.


He is a great captain and great sportsman, but I think Faletau quietly outplayed him across the three tests after being comprehensively outplayed in the first test which was Read's all day long, MOTM by a mile.

I really should find a place for Warburton too, because him coming in and O'Brien going to 6 was the difference between a drawn series and a whitewash pretty much. He may be one of the few people on earth better able to manage refs than an ABs Captain, he is calm polite and he gets in their head. It saved the last test because that ref really wanted to find a reason not to give Owens offside and Warburton allowed him to do that. Turned out it was the correct decision in the end after a million slowmo replays as well but on the field it looked like a penalty all day. Test matches that intense turn on tiny margins and Warburton aced that.


Iaone missed out because I needed to squeeze a Scotsman, Hogg, in there to appease Griff so Liam Williams moved to the wing and knocked Iaone off his perch. But those are marginal calls. But Hogg has been superb all season apart from the Lions tour where he wasn't great, probably carried an injury into it and then got injured again.
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Postby Nikki Gradual » 27 Dec 2017, 18:39

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My front row and 9 to 15 were identical.

Otherwise
4 - Retallick
5 - Launchbury
6 - O'Mahony
7 - O'Brien
8 - Picamoles

I judged it on the whole year so there's a couple in there whose form now is not what it was last winter. The back row in particular could have had Hooper and Faletau in it and the second row Whitelock and Lawes, but I am pretty happy with it overall.
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Postby Copehead » 29 Dec 2017, 23:51

I excluded Vunipola for his second test meltdown.
I love Liam Williams too much for that moment of pure magic in the first test to leave him out although Ioane has undoubtedly been one of the finds of the season and I left Hooper out because he has been a star in a generally lackluster side but on the whole I doubt that anyone would take serious umbrage at that list.
Plus Lawes was in for being a mature international player who looked like he was on the way out but who took into another level when challenged and made himself undroppable, that takes serious commitment and a serious attitude, most improved player of the year.
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Postby Nikki Gradual » 03 Feb 2018, 12:08

Bump.

In preparation.

It’s my favourite time of the year etc etc. Some very exciting young prospects look likely to get a game this weekend. Bring it on.
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Postby Nikki Gradual » 03 Feb 2018, 13:20

Nikki Gradual wrote:This was sent to me by a Welsh friend.
"England are going to score at least 35 points on Saturday (I have revised that downwards from 40+) and will win at an absolute canter."
He was a good player himself and usually a pretty shrewd judge, but I think he's lost it here. Big time. Wales to win a horribly ugly encounter by two clear scores I reckon.
Shame, it would be nice if England's test team could emulate the stunning performances by the U20s (mark my words, by this time next year - at the latest - Zach Mercer willl be in the full squad) and the scarily dominant women.
Ireland to thump Italy, France reverting to the debacle we have become accustomed to in the past few years, but sneaking an undeserved win against Scotkand.


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Postby Copehead » 03 Feb 2018, 16:03

So as yet another glorious false Scottish dawn turns into a beautiful Welsh day we consider what it must be like to get your hopes up every year only to have them trounced by a shit show like that

To be fair Wales looked pretty good, perhaps the clueless sniping against Gatland will fall quiet for a week now.

Should have nilled them
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Copehead wrote:So as yet another glorious false Scottish dawn turns into a beautiful Welsh day we consider what it must be like to get your hopes up every year only to have them trounced by a shit show like that

To be fair Wales looked pretty good, perhaps the clueless sniping against Gatland will fall quiet for a week now.

Should have nilled them


Scotland are paying the price for letting Vern Cotter go too soon. He built the team and he was building its confidence. I can understand why they were so keen to get Gregor in, but one interception today and they descended into total disarray instantly. It sort of serves them right.
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Nikki Gradual wrote:
Copehead wrote:So as yet another glorious false Scottish dawn turns into a beautiful Welsh day we consider what it must be like to get your hopes up every year only to have them trounced by a shit show like that

To be fair Wales looked pretty good, perhaps the clueless sniping against Gatland will fall quiet for a week now.

Should have nilled them


Scotland are paying the price for letting Vern Cotter go too soon. He built the team and he was building its confidence. I can understand why they were so keen to get Gregor in, but one interception today and they descended into total disarray instantly. It sort of serves them right.


I can't help thinking you are right.
They need a bit more pragmatism and a bit of luck with injuries
Perhaps Cockers needs a bit of input
But they are within touching distance of being a very good side
But then so are Wales and they had a touch more pragmatism today c/o Gatland W, one of the most successful coaches in Rugby history, Townsend G. has a ways to go to get one over on Gats.

England and Ireland are someway ahead of the chasing pack as they can deal with injuries better.
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Putain de merde.
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