This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby C » 27 Sep 2020, 21:02

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Bit pissed off about the lack of a bus pass with my cards, but, wtf, there are
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Fonz » 29 Sep 2020, 06:53

GoogaMooga wrote:"The crux of the matter is in the apostrophe."


“The crux of the biscuit...”
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby GoogaMooga » 29 Sep 2020, 07:51

Fonz wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:"The crux of the matter is in the apostrophe."


“The crux of the biscuit...”


Oh yeah, you're right - that's even better.
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Rorschach » 29 Sep 2020, 08:08

So what do people think about possessive apostrophes after words that end in 's' but aren't plurals?

E.g., "This is James' pen." or "This is James's pen."

And, for that matter, do you pronounce that second 's', whether or not you write it.

It's a big issue in our family as my son's name ends in an 's' that isn't even pronounced. So, is it, "This is Louis' pen (with the 's' that is pronounced not being written) or "This is Louis's pen."?
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby GoogaMooga » 29 Sep 2020, 09:23

Rorschach wrote:So what do people think about possessive apostrophes after words that end in 's' but aren't plurals?

E.g., "This is James' pen." or "This is James's pen."

And, for that matter, do you pronounce that second 's', whether or not you write it.

It's a big issue in our family as my son's name ends in an 's' that isn't even pronounced. So, is it, "This is Louis' pen (with the 's' that is pronounced not being written) or "This is Louis's pen."?


I don't add the s in writing, but I do pronounce it
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Charlie O. » 29 Sep 2020, 18:05

What Googa said.
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby kath » 29 Sep 2020, 18:12

Rorschach wrote:So what do people think about possessive apostrophes after words that end in 's' but aren't plurals?

E.g., "This is James' pen." or "This is James's pen."

And, for that matter, do you pronounce that second 's', whether or not you write it.

It's a big issue in our family as my son's name ends in an 's' that isn't even pronounced. So, is it, "This is Louis' pen (with the 's' that is pronounced not being written) or "This is Louis's pen."?


alll manner of folk follow diferent rules for writing it out. you can either add just the apostrophe or add the 's. both are basically correct.

but i do pronounce that extra -s like googa and charlie when i say it.

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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Rorschach » 29 Sep 2020, 19:01

kath wrote:
all manner of folk follow different rules for writing it out. you can either add just the apostrophe or add the 's. both are basically correct.

but i do pronounce that extra -s like googa and charlie when i say it.


I add the 's' when I'm writing but I've come across a lot of people who think that's WRONG, and can get quite cross about it.
Bugger off.

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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Belle Lettre » 29 Sep 2020, 19:30

Of course it's wrong! :D
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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby Hightea » 29 Sep 2020, 19:37

with texting, social media and emails these days its all mutant language now anyway.

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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby kath » 29 Sep 2020, 19:44

Rorschach wrote:
kath wrote:
all manner of folk follow different rules for writing it out. you can either add just the apostrophe or add the 's. both are basically correct.

but i do pronounce that extra -s like googa and charlie when i say it.


I add the 's' when I'm writing but I've come across a lot of people who think that's WRONG, and can get quite cross about it.


i guess it depends on where you are, doesn't it?

.. although i can tell you right now, there are violent hordes of people on either side of the issyew, and they get in bloody brawls about it all the time.

if you wanna spend a miserable hour, just explore online. for anybody on one side of the issyew, i can find ten more on the other side.

i am talking about grammarians, by the way, mwhahaha. a hardcore lot.

more than twenty years ago, when i was an english teacher? they were fighting about it then. even in america alone, there'd be one right way to do it on one campus, and the other right way to do it on another campus a thousand miles away.

i could name a hundred grammar issyews that follow this same suit. we won't even get into split infinitives... starting a sentence with a coordinating conjunction... comma splices... the list is very long. even a good many of those rules have gone by the wayside over time.

that's why i say oh to hell with it, just pick a side and stick with it.

if you are a teacher or editor or some such, you can find out what is considered acceptable where you are.

otherwise, if it's yer own family name, you can do whatever the fucque you want.

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Re: This irritates me (abuse of the apostrophe)

Postby C » 30 Sep 2020, 11:26

Belle Lettre wrote:Of course it's wrong! :D


Correct



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