kath wrote:Geezee wrote:I understand the hope , but I genuinely don't see that he is doing anything different now than when he won the election. I can't imagine nothing that he's said or done would change the mind of anyone who supported him back then.
i hafta disagree with ya on that one.
in the last election, no one really knew him, scads of folk hated clinton, a lotta people sat out. and he still barely won.
this time? we've had almost four years of trump trying to ruin america across the board, domestic and foreign. we have a pandemic he has done nuthin to stop (and in fact has deliberately lied about and tried to downplay.) i'd hafta look it up... someone else can... is it 36 million jobs lost becuz of his incompetence? he's crapped on the military wholescale, etc. the list is very, very long.
he is also legit crazy. bonkers. whether it's dementia or mini-strokes, he honestly is nuts. at this town hall on CNN the other night (the one that had regular voters asking him questions a high schooler could've prepped for), he was almost incomprehensible. when one voter asked him why he hasn't called for a national mask mandate in light of 200,000 covid deaths in america with no end in sight, he said it was joe biden's fault. (????) at another point when the host asked him why he didn't trust masks, he said "waiters".. .yes waiters, who touch their masks and then touch yer food.
sure, he's got his 37%-40% of hardcore, maga hat wearing, stupid, bigoted fucques who see him as some kinda cult hero. but many of the folk who sat on the fence last time are not gonna do it now. people are hurting in this country and beyond sick of his corrupt, malignant, lying, self-serving crap.
the REAL question is whether he can screw with voting and voters by actually cheating enough to win or whether a massive wave turnrout will override whatever fucquery he tries.
i think there is a very good chance he will face that massive override.
No one knew him? Everyone knew him - and they still voted for him, en masse. He insulted soldiers, he bullied handicapped people, he said absolutely outrageous, misogynist things all the time, and only served to strengthen his cause. The crazyier, the better. And nothing that I've seen since then has changed my impression of that - he's untouchable. Has he caused people to die through coronavirus? Of course not - either the coronavirus doesn't exist, or he has been a great champion for freedom against fascist masks. Has he stoke divisive racial hatred? Of course not - he's on the side of law and order against the violent identity politics of the extreme left. Is he in the hands of big business? Of course not - look what he just did to the pharmaceutical industry, one of the most radical executive orders against any industry in recent memory, and amid a pandemic of all things. He's a hero, nobody controls him, he's himself.
30% of the US believes that the earth is 6000 years old. That's a guaranteed 30% of the vote. Doesn't need much more to win the election.