Trans issues

[GoogaMooga]

Googa, google ‘neoclitoris’ and come back to us, if you’ll pardon the pun.

Is that what it's called? Okay, we'll leave it at that, then, since everyone is either too shy or too scared to talk about it.

[Minnie the Minx]

Googa, google ‘neoclitoris’ and come back to us, if you’ll pardon the pun.

Is that what it's called? Okay, we'll leave it at that, then, since everyone is either too shy or too scared to talk about it.

Who is shy or scared to talk about it?
I’ve just given you the term to look for it so your questions about nerve endings can be answered. There are multiple scientific articles and many layman term websites spelling it all out very clearly.

[Six String]

Sad that one can't even ask a perfectly reasonable question without being attacked.

Yes, I think that is roughly how they do it. However, there is a whole range of different interpretations of 'transgender'. One of the issues is that some transgender women who are phyically completely male are lobying for access to womens' spaces (womens' refuges etc) as well as the right to compete in womens' sports. because identifying is enough.

It all gets very "Why do you want to be Loretta Stan?" at times.

If you construct a clitoris from the glans, how are you going to have the nerve endings send signals to the brain. How do you make that connection, I would have thought it impossible.

I don't know intimate details but my friend had such reconstructive surgery and she does have orgasms so not an issue.

[GoogaMooga]

Thanks, Minnie and Six String. Certainly better replies than the quips I got before. If that also applies conversely, woman to man, I would not consider surgery that drastic a step. If it helps a person find an identity that he or she is comfortable with, then that is fine.

[Deebank]

So, vague platitudes and stupid quips. No-one willing to come forward and address the crux of the matter.

I'm not a surgeon, but I suspect you don;t sever the nerves when you do the surgery, something like that.

You try to keep as much of the wiring intact as possible if that makes sense.

[GoogaMooga]

So, vague platitudes and stupid quips. No-one willing to come forward and address the crux of the matter.

I'm not a surgeon, but I suspect you don;t sever the nerves when you do the surgery, something like that.

Yes, that's what I would have thought, the one thing you can't restore. It's amazing though, what you can do with modern medical science.

[Deebank]

So, vague platitudes and stupid quips. No-one willing to come forward and address the crux of the matter.

I'm not a surgeon, but I suspect you don;t sever the nerves when you do the surgery, something like that.

Yes, that's what I would have thought, the one thing you can't restore. It's amazing though, what you can do with modern medical science.

They have been doing since the early seventies (or before even).

Remember Wendy Carlos!

[GoogaMooga]

I'm not a surgeon, but I suspect you don;t sever the nerves when you do the surgery, something like that.

Yes, that's what I would have thought, the one thing you can't restore. It's amazing though, what you can do with modern medical science.

They have been doing since the early seventies (or before even).

Remember Wendy Carlos!

Ah yes, Wendy Carlos. Then there was the first ever, an American by the name of Christine Jorgensen. Operation took place in Denmark, at "Rigshospitalet", Copenhagen. But I don't know how successful those early operations were.

[The Modernist]

You are not addressing the issue, just hiding behind quips. How do you "reconnect" whatever is left of the glans after surgery.

Just use some glue.

Why not just tell me straightforward how you think you are going to have the same nerve connections after surgery.

Because I am neither a surgeon or a doctor.

[Robert]

*calls popcorn factory*

Don’t, not biting!

[Robert]

Thanks, Minnie and Six String. Certainly better replies than the quips I got before. If that also applies conversely, woman to man, I would not consider surgery that drastic a step. If it helps a person find an identity that he or she is comfortable with, then that is fine.

If I may speak on behalf of Transgenders all over the world:
Thank you, thank you very much for your endorsement.

[GoogaMooga]

If I may speak on behalf of Transgenders all over the world:
Thank you, thank you very much for your endorsement.

...said the patron saint, after putting down a handicapped man.

[Davey the Fat Boy]

This is one of those discussions where I realize that I don’t have enough standing for my opinions to be useful.

That's never stopped you before.

I’m evolving.

[Fonz]

The male-to-female transition is a 3 stage procedure.

[Lord Rother]

Hopefully in the fullness of time there’ll be enough transgender people in the world to hold a Transgender Olympics.

[Deebank]

Hopefully in the fullness of time there’ll be enough transgender people in the world to hold a Transgender Olympics.

Well, back in the day there used to be an Alternative Miss Brighton competition.

[KeithPratt]

Hopefully in the fullness of time there’ll be enough transgender people in the world to hold a Transgender Olympics.

I suspect that by 2030 we will be informed that there are around 500 genders.