Recreational heroin use

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Flower » 16 Nov 2019, 12:20

Powehi wrote:
Jimbo wrote:Wanking is the new heroin.


It's also a lot less hard on your arm.


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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Samoan » 16 Nov 2019, 13:53

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I thought I'd sprinkle a bunch of seeds onto a nice crusty slice of bread and butter, more for the taste and crunchy texture than anything else and very delicious it was too but about half an hour later I came over really faint, had to sit down real quick and then got myself onto the sofa for a lie down.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby bobzilla77 » 16 Nov 2019, 15:28

I have a friend who got into it. Keith was one of the people I met when I got to LA that seemed to have his shit together. Learned IT right as every office in LA was getting computers, good paying job. Had a hot girlfriend, cute dog, nice apartment. Played in a popular band that toured Europe and the States every year. I kinda thought, that's the life I would like.

He and the girlfriend started dabbling and doing a druggy Spacemen 3 type band. Within a year he'd lost everything. Quit the touring band mid tour. Stole CDs from me when he came over to say hello.
Next time I saw him I didn't recognize him. He looked like he had the blood sucked out of him and he was now a shrunken head. He had been living on skid row, sucking guys dicks for drug money, but had reached the point where he was so scummy and decrepit, no one would pay him any more. So he realized, I'm going to have to rob somebody, but I'm too decrepit to even run away. That is what hitting bottom was for him. That's pretty. Fucking. Bottom.

He went to rehab and got clean, got married and had a kid. The kid was born with serious birth defects and needed 24 hour care. Keith had a relapse and his wife came home to find him passed out with a needle in his arm, the kid dirty and un fed. He's no longer married and I haven't been able to ask what happened to the kid. I assume his mom is still caring for him.

Last I saw him, he was doing better. Mr Twelve Step, really into the program. He's still Keith, still the guy I enjoyed and admired. Wicked sense if humor. But he is haunted. His life is not what it was, never can be. Last time got high for fun was almost thirty years ago.

That's my heroin story. I have a coke one too.

Please don't do that stuff.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Minnie the Minx » 16 Nov 2019, 16:08

bobzilla77 wrote:
Please don't do that stuff.


Yes, your stories and many others like it are part of the reason why the chance of it ever happening are as near to zero as I can imagine. But, I am reluctant to say ‘NEVER!’ What if aged 80, all my loved ones gone, I decide to spend a month getting high as a kite before I go? Seems like as good a time as any to experiment. Will that happen? Probably not. Who knows what I will think in 30 years though?

Knowing all the horror - and apart from people’s own friends with heroin stories - I’ve dealt with more heroin addicts I’m sure than anyone else on the board, in various states of decomposition, illness and recovery. I’ve seen up front the misery. However, I still wonder what the high feels like and if there would ever be a time in my life when I would do it. That’s not a controversial thought- that’s curiosity.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Minnie the Minx » 16 Nov 2019, 16:10

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Flower wrote:I can't predict what anyone could or would learn about anything.

The film is about young heroin addicts in NYC. It is a tale of addiction to heroin and doesn't white wash things.


Ah! I’ve never seen it.
As you wrote ‘watch this’ I thought there would be some reason you were suggesting that I did.


I'd stick to "Christiane F" x


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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Corporate whore » 16 Nov 2019, 17:34

I've never been tempted, however I would like to know 'how'. Because if I'm even in chronic pain, with no hope of it ever improving, then I would like to try it then.
And although I know overdosing is no picnic, it strikes me as one of the better ways to top yourself it you need to. I don't want to be kept alive if all hope is gone thank you very much.


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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby St Jeemo the Humourless » 16 Nov 2019, 17:45

Its never been anything that I would consider as a recreational choice. Given the chaotic lifestyles that I saw that led to kids being fostered in the first place was very sobering. Being in constant pain would be a different matter though.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Hugh » 16 Nov 2019, 18:12

Mrs H had an on-demand morphine drip when she had surgery a number of years ago. She pressed the button for a dose and instantly vomited. She just put up with the pain after that.

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Deebank » 16 Nov 2019, 19:24

Hugh wrote:Mrs H had an on-demand morphine drip when she had surgery a number of years ago. She pressed the button for a dose and instantly vomited. She just put up with the pain after that.


I found it didn’t really stop the pain as such but you were too out of it to care.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Charlie O. » 17 Nov 2019, 02:48

Charlie O. wrote:Rolling Stone's new advice columnist was asked about this very thing recently. He's a terrible advice-giver on many topics, but he has quite a bit of first-hand knowledge of this one:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-crosby-advice-hard-drugs-porn-over-sex-901856/ (the question in question comes up around 1:13)

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Maybe Matt can read it for me!
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Out of curiosity I tried the link on both of my work computers; on one of them I got the same type message you got. I refreshed the page and got the video the second time.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Hepcat » 18 Nov 2019, 16:09

Minnie the Minx wrote:Very infrequently I think about what heroin feels like and even more infrequently I wonder if there would ever be a time in my life when it would be time to have one attempt at it, just to find out.

Do you ever think about it?


Why bother? It's easy enough to be a fuck-up in life without chemical assistance, is it not? And are your brain cells not dying off fast enough as it is?

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Minnie the Minx » 19 Nov 2019, 14:35

Charlie O. wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:Rolling Stone's new advice columnist was asked about this very thing recently. He's a terrible advice-giver on many topics, but he has quite a bit of first-hand knowledge of this one:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-crosby-advice-hard-drugs-porn-over-sex-901856/ (the question in question comes up around 1:13)

Minnie the Minx wrote:I can’t get into that - says you have to sign up?
Maybe Matt can read it for me!
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Out of curiosity I tried the link on both of my work computers; on one of them I got the same type message you got. I refreshed the page and got the video the second time.


Got it at last. Yes, some interesting points!
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Hightea » 19 Nov 2019, 15:20

Heroin really? Stay the F away - don't try it, don't think about trying it! Ruins lives and is highly addictive.
It's not even a joke to talk about recreational heroin use.

Multiple stories of friends or acquaintances that ruined their lives and/or families. Yes I know one or two who were able to get off it and not ruin their lives but its rare.

Personally, I only tasted it once as someone tried to tell me it was cocaine, not that I did coke either except a few times long ago. Don't recommend that sh*t either.

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Minnie the Minx » 19 Nov 2019, 15:32

Hightea wrote:Heroin really? Stay the F away - don't try it, don't think about trying it! Ruins lives and is highly addictive.
It's not even a joke to talk about recreational heroin use.

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I’m not making a joke. I wrote a post asking if ‘would there ever be a point in my life in which I would think it was ok to try it’ and ‘I wonder what that feels like’ , coupled with acknowledgement of how hideous it surely is and backed up by my own personal extensive experience of how hideous it is. And those two concepts can be discussed quite rationally and separately. As other posts on here have shown.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Hightea » 19 Nov 2019, 15:49

Minnie the Minx wrote:
Hightea wrote:Heroin really? Stay the F away - don't try it, don't think about trying it! Ruins lives and is highly addictive.
It's not even a joke to talk about recreational heroin use.

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I’m not making a joke. I wrote a post asking if ‘would there ever be a point in my life in which I would think it was ok to try it’ and ‘I wonder what that feels like’ , coupled with acknowledgement of how hideous it surely is and backed up by my own personal extensive experience of how hideous it is. And those two concepts can be discussed quite rationally and separately. As other posts on here have shown.

sorry just know too many people over the years who have been ruined by Heroin. Have a very negative view of the stuff although do know people who will tell you its a nice mellow high. Just not worth it for how easy it is to be addicted.

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby GoogaMooga » 20 Nov 2019, 15:33

I have always been very down on H, that's one scare campaign that worked for me. I really don't think there is such a thing as dabbling, everyone gets hooked.

As for what it may be like, there was this popular child actor in Denmark who many years later appeared on one of those "Whatever became of..." programs. He had been a junkie for years, and had supported his habit by stealing prime cuts of beef from supermarkets and selling them in nearby pubs (the film money being long gone). When the interviewer asked him what it was like to do H, he vividly described it as "like kissing God". But really, that is one case where you must ask yourself, is it really worth destroying my life just to get that towering feeling?
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby St Jeemo the Humourless » 20 Nov 2019, 15:48

everyone doesn't get hooked
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Quaco » 05 Dec 2019, 10:29

When I was about 20, I decided I would to it exactly once in my life. I've yet to do it, but I hope I do get around to it eventually.

Various of my friends had varying difficulties with it, but that didn't enter into my thinking. I knew I could do it just the once.
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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby soundchaser » 05 Dec 2019, 14:09

Only a fucking idiot would even think about it. Want to destroy your life? Go right ahead.

It destroyed my brothers life and ruined the end of my childhood, so I speak from bitter experience.

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Re: Recreational heroin use

Postby Flower » 05 Dec 2019, 15:25

soundchaser wrote:Only a fucking idiot would even think about it. Want to destroy your life? Go right ahead.

It destroyed my brothers life and ruined the end of my childhood, so I speak from bitter experience.


I agree.

Sorry for your bitter experience but at the very least, you were wise enough to learn from your brother's tragic mistake.
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