Copehead wrote: That paper is tangentially about climate change too.
Of course it is. Doesn't have to be full on climate change to get some cred.
It's utter horseshit. It's eugenics. It's the tulip bulb panic. It's Russiagate.
I was watching surfing on TV. Surfing will be featured in the Tokyo Olympics and I saw how the Japanese contingent practices and competes. All I could think of was how fine those waves looked. No one was complaining about climate change and how the waves were disappearing. A bitchin wave is a bitchin wave. So I just Googled surfers and climate change and the top thing was Climate Change for Surfers: Why It Matters and I will post the link. Just about everything is "will happen" etc. and there was no complaining about disappearing waves - currently. Oooooh ... 2050 ... https://911surfreport.com/the-edge-volume-48/
I will post you the abstract so you can see:
A Late Silurian crisis in the Welsh Basin
Robin J Bailey and William J Bailey
Abstract. The Ludfordian stage of the Ludlow series, records the terminal phase in the history of
the Welsh early Palaeozoic marine basin. Later Ludfordian facies became uniformly shallow marine,
with event deposits and ubiquitous hummocky cross stratification suggesting storm-influenced
accumulation between fair-weather and storm-wave base. The terminal shallowing trend was
accompanied by a developing ecological crisis signalled by an impoverishment of the marine macrofauna and a marked reduction in bioturbation of the sediments accumulated between the storm events.
Of increasing importance in these latter sediments are often greenish, non-bioturbated, shaly siltstones
showing minutely-wrinkled partings. The wrinkle structures are thought to signify increasingly
extreme conditions, since they record the presence of microbial mats: sea bed colonisations that
today typically develop in ecologically harsh environments. The subsequent passage from these
ecologically stressed open-marine conditions to marine-influenced brackish waters of the Downton
Castle Sandstone Formation – highlighted on the shelf at Ludlow by the famous bone bed – is
signalled in basinal areas to the west only by the rapid replacement of the later Ludfordian marine
shelly fauna by brackish water forms. A major positive carbon isotope excursion associated with the
Ludlow Bone Bed, suggests that there may have been global, climatic, as well as local, influences on
the Ludfordian ecological crisis and on the abrupt faunal changes at the level of the Bone Bed.
The last sentence is the important bit. WE are looking for a specific signifier of faunal stress at times when global warming was occurring.
So tangentially about climate change.
What it is Jimbo is basic physics, I know you don't understand basic physics but I think a 200 year old conspiracy by all the world's scientists ( as even people taking the carbon shilling don't deny basic physics ) to lie about the absorption and emission spectra of the CO2 molecule is a bit far fetched even for you.
You can't change the basic physics of the CO2 molecule and you can't change the level of CO2 in the atmosphere, all you can do is discover a mechanism by which this wouldn't increase the temperature rises we are currently seeing and then you would have to say what is producing teh temperature rises we are seeing and you would do all of that to protect the corporate interests of teh companies who employ me and make me so much more wealthy than you.
I salute you for keeping me in sports cars all these years but enough is enough, I'd like my descendants to have a habitable planet to live on.
I am sorry I have no idea what waves have got to do with global warming but I would have thought that more and stronger storms would produce bitchin' waves.