Diamond Dog wrote:Powehi wrote:The idea that a featherweight like Corbyn who had never held so much as a shadow cabinet post before becoming Labour leader in 2015 is somehow going to best the hardened political heavyweights who head up the EU is laughable. He can't even control his own party as John McDonnell's recent remarks about "putting him in a taxi to Buck House" testify.
Of course before Jezza can "deal with Brexit", he first has to get elected. Given that the country now seems to be divided more on Leave/Remain than traditional Labour/Tory lines, there is an awful lot of anger against the two main parties out there. In the current climate, it is hard to see any party with no coherent Brexit policy -never mind one led by Jeremy Corbyn - getting a working majority.
Jezza's ingrained Euroscepticism certainly isn't going to win him any brownie points with Remain voters on either side of the increasingly outmoded Lab/Tory divide. Heaving done virtually fuck all to campaign for Remain in 2016, he has sat wringing his hands impotently every time he has been called on to provide any kind of decisive leadership re Brexit or any other issue ever since.
To see what an undisciplined shambles Labour has descended into under his stewardship, suggest you check out Wednesday night's Andrew Neil show and Thursday night's Question Time, both of which should still be on iPlayer.
The former had the absurd spectacle of a Labour shadow cabinet member detailing a course of action re delaying any election totally at odds with the one outlined by his deputy leader, Keir Starmer, just a few hours earlier. When pushed about what Labour's policy vis a vis Brexit might be should they actually assume power, he took a leaf out of Corbyn's book and started dithering about how the need for such a decision was still a long way off.
On Thursday, Emily Thornberry made herself look even more stupid when she was forced to admit that a future Labour government might very well end up campaigning against whatever deal it had managed to negotiate with the EU.
If you think this sort of stuff is going to cut any ice with either voters or the EU, you really should stay out of that dark rolm, Prof.
Having voted Labour at every election since February 1974, I'm one of the many former supporters who won't be backing the party until John McDonnell puts Corbyn in a cab and tells him to fuck off back to his allotment.
I'd say that's a major upgrade on the catastrophic fuck up the Tories have inflicted on this country the past three weeks, let alone the past three years (and further).
However - if not Corbyn - Who do you see leading this country out of the Brexit morass the Tories have got us into?
But there is no option, I think, with the fixed term parliament rule. If Johnson resigns, we get another Tory pm, but the lamest of lame ducks. If the government resigns, then the leader of the next largest party after the Tories gets to go to the Queen. Of course she can insist on an election, but is not likely to.
Then Corbyn has to 1 ask for an extension which the EU will probably agree to - after all they do not want the UK to leave; 2 hold a second referendum; and then 3, whatever the result, hold a general election.
Unfortunately acting in the national interest is not every politician's forte.