Do we need to talk about Liam ?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Samoan » 06 Feb 2019, 13:04

Liam Neeson film's red carpet event cancelled amid racism row.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47138980
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Diamond Dog » 06 Feb 2019, 13:18

Samoan wrote:Liam Neeson film's red carpet event cancelled amid racism row.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47138980


Samoan wrote:Yes.

We Know.

We all read and/or listen to the news in it's various formats and sources of choice.

I'm truly at a loss to know why you persistently and regularly do this as if you're coming out with some entirely novel and profound analytical insight into the whole sorry debacle.
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Samoan » 06 Feb 2019, 14:07

Diamond Dog wrote:
Samoan wrote:Liam Neeson film's red carpet event cancelled amid racism row.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47138980












Evidently not.
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby caramba » 06 Feb 2019, 14:39

Does this mean we can no longer watch Schindler's List?

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Fonz » 06 Feb 2019, 17:38

Is it any good?
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Lord Rother » 06 Feb 2019, 21:24

John Barnes has got it right.

Well, apart from the “deserves a medal” bit which is a bit OTT.

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby The Prof » 07 Feb 2019, 10:29

I wonder if the perpetrator in the story had been a Protestant wether that would have made a difference? It would then have been the story of and angry man on some kind of simplistic 'revenge' attack.
Or is the outrage because one of the first questions he asked is to do with the colour of the rapist's skin? Seemingly it was a black man.
Maybe there was a sizeable black community in the city he was living in in the 70's 80's when this happened. Maybe there wasn't.

I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised in the next few weeks if he admits he made the whole thing up just appear to act tough.

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Robert » 07 Feb 2019, 10:43

Diamond Dog wrote:
Samoan wrote:Liam Neeson film's red carpet event cancelled amid racism row.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47138980


Samoan wrote:Yes.

We Know.

We all read and/or listen to the news in it's various formats and sources of choice.

I'm truly at a loss to know why you persistently and regularly do this as if you're coming out with some entirely novel and profound analytical insight into the whole sorry debacle.



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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby The Prof » 07 Feb 2019, 10:48

Pete's been waiting for that. He's had it copied+pasted to his clipboard for weeks, waiting for the right time to pounce!

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby caramba » 07 Feb 2019, 11:31

Hope Neeson doesn't run into the woman from Bath who tweeted that, having recently squandered £12 on a ticket for an LN-type movie
at her local multiplex, she's now combing the streets in the hopes of finding an action movie hero she can dismember.

Whether LN is or isn't a racist, his remarks were stupid in the extreme given that so many people now take offence at the slightest thing.

Wonder if his career will recover or, that he'll be "whitewashed" out of future releases a la Kevin Spacey - as many keyboard warrior types are now urging.

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Goat Boy » 07 Feb 2019, 12:03

I feel sorry for the guy. It shows extraordinary naivety but also refreshing candour to admit to something like that. Of course the social media outrage vultures and thought police will demand their penance which is kinda funny considering Neeson was talking about the putrid, futile ugliness of vengeance but there you go. I hope it doesn’t end his career.

Whenever you try talk about prejudice, especially your own (past or present) or those dark, troubling thoughts that cross your brain from time to time and remind us that there is all this weird, ugly, crazy shit swimming around your subconscious that occasionally pops up and yells, “Hiya!!,” you can see people shutting down instantly in my experience. The social mask cannot and will not be penetrated. “I’m not prejudiced!” “Oh I never think anything like that”.

It’s funny but also sad and understandable I guess. It’s like a taboo to acknowledge these things so I like to push it with people occasionally because I’m a bit of cunt. One time at work I remarked how I briefly contemplated eating some dog shit I saw on the pavement. One of those thoughts that just pops into your head like, “Christ, imagine if I just picked it up and popped it in there…”. People were horrified. “Oh I never think anything like that!” etc. What? Never? A common one is the stepping in front of a bus or walking off a railway platform. I could really easily kill myself here!!

Please.

It’s being human. At times like this I wish some people would recognise this rather than recoil in horror and pass judgement. Sure his reaction was racist and ugly but he learned from it, as you do in life hopefully and move on with that insight embedded.
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Lord Rother » 07 Feb 2019, 12:18

Good post if I may be so bold.

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Goat Boy » 07 Feb 2019, 12:31

Lord Rother wrote:Good post if I may be so bold.


Cheers ya uptight bald cunt

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Lord Rother » 07 Feb 2019, 12:41

:lol:

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 07 Feb 2019, 13:00

Goat Boy wrote:I feel sorry for the guy. It shows extraordinary naivety but also refreshing candour to admit to something like that. Of course the social media outrage vultures and thought police will demand their penance which is kinda funny considering Neeson was talking about the putrid, futile ugliness of vengeance but there you go. I hope it doesn’t end his career.

Whenever you try talk about prejudice, especially your own (past or present) or those dark, troubling thoughts that cross your brain from time to time and remind us that there is all this weird, ugly, crazy shit swimming around your subconscious that occasionally pops up and yells, “Hiya!!,” you can see people shutting down instantly in my experience. The social mask cannot and will not be penetrated. “I’m not prejudiced!” “Oh I never think anything like that”.

It’s funny but also sad and understandable I guess. It’s like a taboo to acknowledge these things so I like to push it with people occasionally because I’m a bit of cunt. One time at work I remarked how I briefly contemplated eating some dog shit I saw on the pavement. One of those thoughts that just pops into your head like, “Christ, imagine if I just picked it up and popped it in there…”. People were horrified. “Oh I never think anything like that!” etc. What? Never? A common one is the stepping in front of a bus or walking off a railway platform. I could really easily kill myself here!!

Please.

It’s being human. At times like this I wish some people would recognise this rather than recoil in horror and pass judgement. Sure his reaction was racist and ugly but he learned from it, as you do in life hopefully and move on with that insight embedded.



I had a really good friend who years ago told me that whenever they saw a pregnant woman they would think about kicking them in the stomach. After choking on my beer a bit we talked about it and we went hither and yon about where these thoughts might have come from. It was a genuinely fascinating if vaguely unsettling conversation but they were glad they had told someone (of course they would never have done it.)
I do sometimes think of if we had had that conversation today, someone overheard it, took pic, posted it, uproar, thought police.

Not sure how relevant my story is, but still.
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Goat Boy » 07 Feb 2019, 13:13

Sometimes if I see a person in a wheel chair I think how fucked up it would be to just tip them out on the street!

Or kick a crutch away from somebody just out of badness.

Splat!
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 08 Feb 2019, 09:09

Goat Boy wrote:Or kick a crutch away from somebody just out of badness.

If the thought wasn't bad enough, imagine the shame if your kick was too lame to kick the crutch away. That's the only reason I don't do it regularly.
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby caramba » 08 Feb 2019, 09:16

A few years ago, I was on crutches and sometimes used to give any fully-able person stupid* enough to get in my way a good hard crack on the shin


* and sufficiently weedy enough

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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Diamond Dog » 08 Feb 2019, 09:18

Goat Boy wrote:Sometimes if I see a person in a wheel chair I think how fucked up it would be to just tip them out on the street!

Or kick a crutch away from somebody just out of badness.

Splat!


Now I know the origination of your name (I honestly hadn't a clue) it all falls into place....it's very much like Hicks' 'stream of consciousness' "jokes".
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Re: Do we need to talk about Liam ?

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Feb 2019, 09:39

Did you wake up in a mood, DD?

One can only imagine all the thoughts and prejudices you have my angry friend but if it makes you feel any better all those thoughts and prejudices you have are perfectly normal but that doesn't mean you can't work on the latter of course.

Take care, Pete and remember, we all love you

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