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Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 01:05
by Jimbo
Behind the app that delayed Iowa’s voting results is a dark money operation funded by anti-Bernie Sanders billionaires. Its top donor Seth Klarman is a Buttigieg backer who has dumped money into pro-settler Israel lobby groups.

By Max Blumenthal

.....As Democratic elites like the Sussmans braced for a Bernie Sanders triumph in Iowa, a mysterious piece of technology spun out by a group they supported delayed the vote results, preventing Sanders from delivering a victory speech.

And the politician many of them supported, Pete Buttigieg, exploited the moment to declare himself the winner.

In such a strange scenario, the conspiracy theories write themselves.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 05 Feb 2020, 21:55
by Jimbo
Go Mayor Pete! Kicking butts in Iowa and next he'll be kicking 'em in New Hampshire. President Pete. I like the sound of that.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 02:55
by Count Machuki
Jimbo wrote:Go Mayor Pete! Kicking butts in Iowa and next he'll be kicking 'em in New Hampshire. President Pete. I like the sound of that.


Jimbo, at least Jimbo properly if you're gonna Jimbo, ffs

https://fortune.com/2019/10/24/pete-but ... -business/

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019 ... orate-tool

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 09:01
by `
Get set for four more years of the orange buffoon (assuming humanity lasts that long).

The Dems have fucked themselves every which way from Sunday with their wreckless impeachment, disastrous mismanagement in Iowa and Nancy Pelosi's playing right into Trump's hands with her on-screen ripping up of the SotU address.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 14:15
by Dr. Baron
I don’t think the impeachment was reckless. I think it was necessary. I also don’t think Pelosi’s actions will factor in much, if at all, in the election.

The troublesome issue is the candidates.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 06 Feb 2020, 16:58
by `
Still Baron wrote:I don’t think the impeachment was reckless. I think it was necessary. I also don’t think Pelosi’s actions will factor in much, if at all, in the election.

The troublesome issue is the candidates.


To paraphrase your missus, you come at the Quim, you better not miss...

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 07 Feb 2020, 03:25
by Jimbo
The Myth Of Incompetence: DNC Scandals Are A Feature, Not A Bug
Caitlin Johnstone

The flaw in this expectation is its premise that Democratic Party elites care if their party wins in November. They do not.

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/the- ... 264352d4f7

Caitlin nails it hard again.

At this time it looks, however, like Bernie has won in Iowa. Is it official? I don't know but had Bernie not had the overwhelming numbers of supporters he'd have lost. Let's just see what shenanigans await progressives in New Hampshire.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 08 Feb 2020, 14:38
by `
Jimbo wrote:

...it looks like Bernie has won in Iowa...had Bernie not had the overwhelming numbers
of supporters he'd have lost.



Cheers, J. Bet they don't get this level of tell-it-like-it-is political analysis over at Preludin!

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 08 Feb 2020, 15:01
by Diamond Dog
Powehi wrote:
Jimbo wrote:

...it looks like Bernie has won in Iowa...had Bernie not had the overwhelming numbers
of supporters he'd have lost.



Cheers, J. Bet they don't get this level of tell-it-like-it-is political analysis over at Preludin!


And he even managed to get that wrong.

Pete Buttigieg 26.2%
Sanders 26.1%
Warren 18%
Biden 15.8%
Klobuchar 12.3%
Yang 1.0%

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 09 Feb 2020, 01:33
by Jimbo
Diamond Dog wrote:
Powehi wrote:
Jimbo wrote:

...it looks like Bernie has won in Iowa...had Bernie not had the overwhelming numbers
of supporters he'd have lost.



Cheers, J. Bet they don't get this level of tell-it-like-it-is political analysis over at Preludin!


And he even managed to get that wrong.

Pete Buttigieg 26.2%
Sanders 26.1%
Warren 18%
Biden 15.8%
Klobuchar 12.3%
Yang 1.0%


Despite what you read in the lying, unquestioning, roll-over and play dead news, do you seriously believe that Buttigieg got more votes than Sanders? Even you can't be that naive. When I say that Sanders numbers were overwhelming I mean there were - and had to be - so many voters for him that there could be no dispute. All the polls said Sanders. And even then the cheating Democratic scumbags placed that CIA shill Buttigieg at the top. How dumb must you be to so unabashedly and uncritically criticize my post. Yeah, maybe some shitheel somewhere says Buttigieg squeaked by but phuck dat shit. Sanders won and you know it. :roll:

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 09 Feb 2020, 04:45
by Count Machuki
On Wednesday you loved "CIA Shill" Mayor Pete, Jimbo.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 09 Feb 2020, 05:34
by Jimbo
Count Machuki wrote:On Wednesday you loved "CIA Shill" Mayor Pete, Jimbo.


I was trying for irony. I don't like him at all.
Fun fact: the most dangerous synthetic material ever invented in a laboratory for public consumption is Pete Buttigieg.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 09 Feb 2020, 07:45
by Diamond Dog
Jimbo wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
Powehi wrote:
Cheers, J. Bet they don't get this level of tell-it-like-it-is political analysis over at Preludin!


And he even managed to get that wrong.

Pete Buttigieg 26.2%
Sanders 26.1%
Warren 18%
Biden 15.8%
Klobuchar 12.3%
Yang 1.0%


Despite what you read in the lying, unquestioning, roll-over and play dead news, do you seriously believe that Buttigieg got more votes than Sanders? Even you can't be that naive. When I say that Sanders numbers were overwhelming I mean there were - and had to be - so many voters for him that there could be no dispute. All the polls said Sanders. And even then the cheating Democratic scumbags placed that CIA shill Buttigieg at the top. How dumb must you be to so unabashedly and uncritically criticize my post. Yeah, maybe some shitheel somewhere says Buttigieg squeaked by but phuck dat shit. Sanders won and you know it. :roll:


Jeez.... :lol: :lol:

Where I come from from 26.2 is always larger than 26.1 but it seems where I come from has had that wrong all along. Sigh.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 19:16
by Count Machuki

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 01:57
by Count Machuki
We're now Yangless, I understand?

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 02:10
by Dr. Baron
So my phone says!

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 02:14
by Count Machuki
Man, I was gonna buy a whole mess of drugs with my Yangbucks, too. What a bummer.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 02:30
by Count Machuki
Oh, Biden. He's talking race in SC. He's just so embarrassing and desperate.

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 19:48
by Jimbo
I shit you not. The NYT sez Putin is now helping Trump and the WAPO sez Putin is now helping Bernie.

Thank god for Caitlin for setting the matter straight: All Candidates Are Russian Agents But Pete Buttigieg
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/inte ... fa80b17ae5

Re: Democrat candidates so far. . .

Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 21:31
by Dr. Baron
I'll say that I've obviously definitely been wrong about these things before, but I still think Bernie is a disaster. It has never been at all clear to me that he would've beat Trump in 2016. If anything, I think it could have happened, but it could have also been a real bloodbath.

Among the liberal candidates, Elizabeth Warren is, to me, vastly, vastly superior. First, I think he is eminently beatable. Trump will absolutely have a field day with him and he will be able to speak in language that voting Americans are intuitively receptive to (after 50 years of conditioning). The only difference I perceive between Bernie and Corbyn is that Bernie has some fire in his belly. But apart from that, he is a greater target than George McGovern, Walter Mondale, or Mike Dukakis ever were. That's what I see---him getting absolutely creamed.

OK, so maybe America has changed. Maybe Bernie's sincerity and strong message will bring out people who haven't voted in the past, or will turn people who voted for Obama and then Trump. Maybe the world is fundamentally different nowadays. Maybe Trump isn't Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan.

But then, I also think he could very possibly be a terrible President who sets "the cause" back another few decades. I guess I understand people being enthusiastic about Bernie always having been Bernie and Bernie staying true to himself and everything else, but what the shit is he going to DO when he's President? Everything he talks about is something Congress (and the Courts) must sign off on. He's not talking about the things a President actually has control over and then where will his famous principles lead him? Has he ever cut a deal with ANYONE? Maybe Bernie will turn the page on 50 years of shit, but I think the chances are better that it'll be a missed opportunity. The thing is, I think his principles, his policies, his views, in general, could be sold to the American people (and I'm basically in favor of most of them), but it has to be from someone with magnetism and social intelligence. Not by a guy who comes off as a cranky high school government teacher who has never stopped shouting and bellowing at people for being wrong.

I hope I'm wrong, of course. We'll see what the next states bring.