in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: antisemitism

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 22 Nov 2018, 19:22

Fonz wrote:
Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
Fonz wrote:Davey, in your view is it the idea of a 'powerful Jewish lobby' that is antisemitic, even if there is an actual powerful Jewish lobby?

There is a powerful Israel lobby that is primarily run by right-wing Jews (with the partnership of right-wing non-Jews). They are not a Jewish lobby. They don’t speak for all Jews.

I googled ‘Jewish Lobby’, and indeed,it is regarded as a pejorative, by many, though not all.
I didn’t realise this. I suspect most people using the term casually might not realise this.

Of course. But that’s how bigotry persists. The small group that means harm get to hide behind those that simply don’t realize.
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Re: antisemitism

Postby Jimbo » 23 Nov 2018, 03:52

This is the real shit, happening now, aided and abetted by the Russiagate believers.

US-Funded Neo-Nazis in Ukraine Mentor US White Supremacists

November 17, 2018 • 90 Comments

Short-sighted U.S. foreign policy that backs jihadists in the Middle East and neo-Nazis in Ukraine is once again blowing back on the United States.

By Max Blumenthal

Last month, an unsealed FBI indictment of four American white supremacists from the Rise Above Movement (RAM) declared that the defendants had trained with Ukraine’s Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia officially incorporated into the country’s national guard. The training took place after the white supremacist gang participated in violent riots in Huntington Beach and Berkeley, California and Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017…

Not only are white supremacists from across the West flocking to Ukraine to learn from the combat experience of their fascist brothers-in-arms, they are doing so openly — chronicling their experiences on social media before they bring their lessons back home. But U.S. law enforcement has done nothing so far to restrict the flow of right-wing American extremists to Azov’s bases... ... remacists/

If you can handle the truth you'll find Blumenthal is the best investigative journalist going.
Cold War Number One: 70 years of daily national stupidity. Cold War Number Two: Still in its youth, but just as stupid. - William Blum