2018 Midterm Election Thread

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby pig bodine » 07 Nov 2018, 17:11

Latino is a very heterogeneous term. In Florida, there is probably a Cuban majority, and they’ve voted largely conservative since the early 60’s. In the northeast, there are more people from Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Central and South American descent and in the South West and California, Of Mexican, Central and South American descent, and these are the people Trump and his followers demonize. I doubt you’d get 50 percent red with them.

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 07 Nov 2018, 17:28

WOW did you just see that shit with Jim Acosta from CNN at the press conference?
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Nov 2018, 17:34

I watched the national, state and regional election results pretty late, in between the Duke/Kentucky game.

I think Democrats were overreaching thinking they'd win the Senate along with governorships, but at least the house went blue.

Re: Republicans, I heard some folks say it this morning, but I think one large factor comes down to financial security and people only care about their 401Ks. I also think some folks are just unable to see beyond their party bubble and very selectively rationalize their decisions to stay the course. A lot of independents crossed, but they did in 2016 too.

Michael Moore, who is very paranoid of Trump and his "evil genius," asked which Democrat will beat Trump in 2020. It was kind of a set-up for his own answer, but he thinks it can't be a politician, like Harris, Swalwell, Warren, etc. He thinks it has to be someone iconic. I know Oprah won't run, but she's the only one I could think of off the top of my head. Harris is already set to have her memoir published, a sure sign she's running. Losing doesn't help Abrams and O'Rourke (if you can't win your own state, how are you going to transcend nationally?), but they both have charisma to go with some political chops.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 07 Nov 2018, 17:47

RELD-LOMAX inc. wrote:WOW did you just see that shit with Jim Acosta from CNN at the press conference?


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... atest-live
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Sneelock » 07 Nov 2018, 17:51

Dead Brothel Owner Wins State Assembly Seat!


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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 07 Nov 2018, 17:57

Fascinating conference. The tension is palpable. Barely-suppressed hatred from both sides.

And who was that kid running around giving and taking the microphone from reporters?
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Sneelock » 07 Nov 2018, 18:00

Obama used to go on FOX sometimes and try to patiently explain his policies.
TRUMP is pissed off at the mere existence of CNN.
it's weird how normal it seems. TRUMP yelling at CNN - must be Wednesday.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 07 Nov 2018, 18:04

Such a hateful piece of shit. I feel angry just watching and listening to him.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Count Machuki » 07 Nov 2018, 18:40

RELD-LOMAX inc. wrote:Such a hateful piece of shit. I feel angry just watching and listening to him.


Try living under him. :x
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Sneelock » 07 Nov 2018, 18:55

Imagine interacting with people who openly ADMIRE that guy?
it takes a lot out of me, man.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby pcqgod » 07 Nov 2018, 18:59

sloopjohnc wrote:
Michael Moore, who is very paranoid of Trump and his "evil genius," asked which Democrat will beat Trump in 2020. It was kind of a set-up for his own answer, but he thinks it can't be a politician, like Harris, Swalwell, Warren, etc. He thinks it has to be someone iconic.


Half of the the time I think the same.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Tactful Cactus » 07 Nov 2018, 19:49

Sneelock wrote:Imagine interacting with people who openly ADMIRE that guy?.


Those people see the complete mirror opposite to you. They see the president being harassed by a belligerent journalist and wonder how you could possibly stick up for the press. They're not seeing what you're seeing.

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Nov 2018, 21:22

pcqgod wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:
Michael Moore, who is very paranoid of Trump and his "evil genius," asked which Democrat will beat Trump in 2020. It was kind of a set-up for his own answer, but he thinks it can't be a politician, like Harris, Swalwell, Warren, etc. He thinks it has to be someone iconic.


Half of the the time I think the same.


I do too. My personal pick from the Democratic crowd would be Sen. Klobachur. She doesn't fit the icon role, but I think she'd be good.
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Robert » 07 Nov 2018, 23:21

This was pretty good


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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby $P.Muff$ » 07 Nov 2018, 23:25

Hightea wrote:The reason so much is close is that USA is divided rural vs city and its getting where even the midwest cities are voting more blue. This midterm seemed to be about the suburbs only hope this can grow more blue by 2020.


Much of the division can also be attributed to the gerrymandering of districts.

What I'll never get about Florida is the Latino Men who vote over 50% Red. It makes no sense to me.


On a broader level, when demonized minorities - particularly first generation citizens - embrace right wing politics, I feel much of the reasoning is on a subconscious level where, rather than angered by the fear-mongering & scapegoating - and thus regecting the status quo, they have been made to feel so inadequate that a bold attempt to assimilate to the perceived norms is made.

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Count Machuki » 07 Nov 2018, 23:43

The couple Republican Latinos I know are older generation guys that buy into that whole "hard work and independence and screw anybody else" thing.
I think there's an element of macho culture there, too. [/broadgeneralization]
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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby $P.Muff$ » 07 Nov 2018, 23:55

Yeah, and there are strong conservative leanings amongst those who practice various forms of Christianity, but it's the younger, first generation Border Patrol types I'm referring to. Though I suppose macho badassness plays a role there as well.

Of course a simpler answer is that there are a lot of dumb people living on this planet.

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Re: 2018 Midterm Election Thread

Postby Jimbo » 08 Nov 2018, 00:39

$P.Muff$ wrote:
Of course a simpler answer is that there are a lot of dumb people living on this planet.


This and how short the memories are of the smarter ones. All the griping, talk about your same old same old. Watch this and play spot the similarities. See how Russia was used as a scapegoat before - a number of times, how whistle blowers and honest journalists have been shut up, how socialistic programs and their proponents were suppressed, how the media were owned by the powerful and how, worst of all, war is always the ultimate solution. The elections are a sham, a distraction, a cat toy, Carlin was right. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

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