Kavanaugh Hearings

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby $P.Muff$ » 03 Oct 2018, 01:39

I don't think they should have a say in the matter, and I actually respect the fact that they keep with tradition and don't speak publicly on the nominations.

Just today I saw the first ever TV advertisement that I can recall promoting Kav. It was disgusting, as was his interview promoting himself on FOX.

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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby LeBaron » 03 Oct 2018, 02:33

Charlie O. wrote:
$P.Muff$ wrote:can't help but wonder what the conversations amongst the current sitting justices are.

I wonder that a LOT.


I strongly suspect that they uniformly hate what the confirmation process has become and a strong majority are worried about what this will do to the Court. I suspect that the same strong majority are appalled by Trump and all that comes with him.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Count Machuki » 03 Oct 2018, 15:39

Right Wing Dad weighs in!

RWD wrote:What our elected representatives in Washington are doing (and allowing to be done) to this man is disgusting, immmoral, and self-serving. EVERY member of the Senate Judiciary Committee deserves to be turned out of office over this.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Sneelock » 03 Oct 2018, 17:39

damn! how do you even fix a cup of coffee carrying around all that anger???
how far are they willing to take this? will they invent a "Devil's Triangle" drinking game? will they call farts "boofs" from now on?
it is apparently out of the question for right wingers to even entertain the idea that BK and President TRUMP lie badly about small things.
everybody else must be the problem - yeah, that's the ticket.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Snarfyguy » 03 Oct 2018, 17:41

LeBaron wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:
$P.Muff$ wrote:can't help but wonder what the conversations amongst the current sitting justices are.

I wonder that a LOT.


I strongly suspect that they uniformly hate what the confirmation process has become and a strong majority are worried about what this will do to the Court. I suspect that the same strong majority are appalled by Trump and all that comes with him.

RBG has been quite vocal as to what she thinks of the Kavanaugh confirmation process.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby $P.Muff$ » 03 Oct 2018, 21:37

I was referring to them voicing their opinion on the noms themselves.

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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 04 Oct 2018, 04:19

Great article from The Atlantic:

The Cruelty is the Point


President Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear. Jimbo thinks it is a goof.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatl ... le/572104/
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Jimbo » 04 Oct 2018, 05:41

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:Great article from The Atlantic:

The Cruelty is the Point


President Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear. Jimbo thinks it is a goof.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatl ... le/572104/


Less and less do I find anything funny about Trump but the way the "values" Dems are trying to oppose him is hilarious, blaming Russia for his win and voting with him to boost the military budget.

I know first hand how cruel Trump and his ilk can be. Trump and I went to the same military high school, New York Military Academy where hazing was a horror for me and a blast for Donald I'm sure. He had graduated shortly before my time but became first captain, the highest student rank. I only lasted one year. I left there with a flinch. Guess I was truly traumatized. Had I stayed I'd be expected to haze the newbies just as he surely had. I see a similar cruelty in Kavanaugh and his ilk. Fucking jocks. :x Time for Revenge of the Nerds: The Final Chapter
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Snarfyguy » 04 Oct 2018, 19:13

Again, quoting Chait in NY Mag at length

Republicans Have Decided to Ignore All of Brett Kavanaugh’s Lies

The FBI investigation into Brett Kavanaugh has turned out to be a fig leaf. Multiple reports tell the same story: The White House has controlled the probe, ignoring the attempts by multiple witnesses to reach investigators and wrapping up its work well before its already-tight deadline.

In the meantime, however, significant new evidence has appeared from the news media. It demonstrates beyond a doubt that Kavanaugh’s emotional testimony was a farrago of evasions and outright lies.

Tuesday, the New York Times delved into Kavanaugh’s high-school culture. It turned up several details casting serious doubt on the ancillary claims the prospective justice made. Kavanaugh wrote a letter describing himself and his friends as “prolific pukers,” undercutting his assurance to the Senate that his inclusion in the the “Beach Week Ralph Club” was a reference to a weak stomach for spicy food. His yearbook described girls from Holton-Arms — the alma mater of Christine Blasey Ford — as easy sexual conquests, contradicting Kavanaugh’s insistence that she would not have entered his social circle. (“My friends and I spent time together at parties on weekends, it was usually the — with friends from nearby Catholic all-girls high schools, Stone Ridge, Holy Child, Visitation, Immaculata, Holy Cross. Dr. Ford did not attend one of those schools. She attended an independent private school named Holton-Arms and she was a year behind me.”)

Also in his testimony, Kavanaugh evasively refused to even concede that the “Bart O’Kavanaugh” described by his best friend, Mark Judge, was a fictionalized reference to himself. “I’m trying to get a straight answer from you under oath. Are you Bart Kavanaugh that he’s referring to, yes or no?” asked Senator Patrick Leahy. “You’d have to ask him.” The Times found a letter written by Kavanaugh, signed “Bart.”

Wednesday, James Roche, a former college roommate of Kavanaugh’s, wrote a column for Slate expressing his incredulity at the self-portrait the judge presented before the Senate. Roche noted that Kavanaugh’s drinking was far more serious than he had allowed. More specifically, he contradicted Kavanaugh’s dubious claims that his reference to “boofing” meant flatulence, and “Devil’s Triangle” a drinking game. “Boofing” and “Devil’s Triangle” are sexual references,” write Roche. “I know this because I heard Brett and his friends using these terms on multiple occasions.”

During his testimony, Kavanaugh piously insisted his description as a “Renate Alumnius” was a term of affection for a friend they regarded as one of their own, devoid of any sexual connotation. Last night, The New Yorker reported one of Kavanaugh’s high-school friends’ detailed recollections that this was a complete lie. His recollections are worth reading in detail:

But the classmate who submitted the statement said that he heard Kavanaugh “talk about Renate many times,” and that “the impression I formed at the time from listening to these conversations where Brett Kavanaugh was present was that Renate was the girl that everyone passed around for sex.” The classmate said that “Brett Kavanaugh had made up a rhyme using the REE NATE pronunciation of Renate’s name” and sang it in the hallways on the way to class. He recalled the rhyme going, “REE NATE, REE NATE, if you want a date, can’t get one until late, and you wanna get laid, you can make it with REE NATE.” He said that, while he might not be remembering the rhyme word-for-word, “the substance is 100 percent accurate.” He added, “I thought that this was sickening at the time I heard it, and it left an indelible mark in my memory.”


Kavanaugh’s testimony accomplished its intended effect of forming an emotional bond between him and the Republican Party, elevating him to the status of martyr. Every conservative seems to see in Kavanaugh a reflection of the pain they have suffered from the sneering liberal elite. But we now know for certain that that testimony, all delivered in the same earnest pitch of an innocent man pleading for his good name, was filled with demonstrable lies. Many of these lies were already apparent at the beginning of the week. Now the evidence is even more damning.

To the extent conservatives have acknowledged this at all, they have processed it as somehow confirming that Kavanaugh is being persecuted. Proof that he told repeated lies about his youthful drinking and treatment of girls does not suggest to them that his other claims about his youthful drinking and treatment of girls are probably wrong. Instead they have concluded he is being subjected to some new and irrelevant test of purity. “Will a full-bore investigation of adolescent behavior now become a standard part of the ‘job interview’ for all senior office holders?” asks Bret Stephens. What a bizarre description of reporters fact-checking Kavanaugh’s own testimony.

At the beginning of this process, I was willing to entertain the possibility Kavanaugh might be innocent. People can change. I believe he has grown into a better and more responsible adult than the drunken bully he was as a young man. He could have acknowledged and apologized for his misbehavior. Instead, he denied everything. Like Trump, he found a way to manipulate and exploit the emotional core of the American right, from the voters to the elites, almost all of whom now ignore or justify his lies in the greater cause of service to their party.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -lies.html
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby $P.Muff$ » 05 Oct 2018, 05:04

His WSJ op-ed just makes me feel bad for his kids, though not for the reasons he insists upon. What a worthless bastard.

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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Count Machuki » 05 Oct 2018, 15:23

It's a done deal, isn't it?
I knew that FBI thing was gonna be a total snow job.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby LeBaron » 05 Oct 2018, 16:08

It’s looking like it.

Even if the two female Republican Senators (Murkowski and Collins) vote against him, the FBI document probably satisfies Flake and Manchin.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Sneelock » 05 Oct 2018, 16:59

5 out of 9 -- hand picked Leonard Leo poster boy, Federalist Society CATHOLICS.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby sloopjohnc » 05 Oct 2018, 16:59

LeBaron wrote:It’s looking like it.

Even if the two female Republican Senators (Murkowski and Collins) vote against him, the FBI document probably satisfies Flake and Manchin.


Apparently, they voted "yes" that the FBI investigation was enough and can go on to final vote.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Sneelock » 05 Oct 2018, 17:02

here's the Repubs' next election cycle strategy:
bla bla bla Democrats
bla bla bla Media
bla bla bla Liberals
bla bla bla SOCIALISTS
bla bla bla bla bla
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Snarfyguy » 05 Oct 2018, 17:07

The Real Reason the White House Told the FBI Not to Interview Christine Blasey Ford?

The Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee have a theory.

According to Democratic sources, committee Democrats have concluded that the White House believed a Kavanaugh interview would be too risky. During the hearing last week on Ford’s allegations, Kavanaugh frequently dodged questions from Democratic senators, who were limited to five minutes of time each. He filibustered, he sidestepped queries, and he was often combative. And during the Republicans’ allotted time for questioning, Rachel Mitchell, the Arizona prosecutor retained by the committee GOPers, was not given the chance to pose many queries to Kavanaugh. Though the committee Republicans—all men—relied on Mitchell to question Ford, when it was Kavanaugh’s turn at the witness table, they essentially shoved Mitchell aside in order to issue grandstanding speeches defending Kavanaugh and assailing the Democrats. (See: Lindsey Graham.)

Kavanaugh, that is, did not undergo a true and professional grilling. An FBI interview would have been a much different experience. “When you’re in front of the FBI, you cannot refuse to answer questions, you cannot attack the agents, you cannot change the subject,” a Democratic member of the committee says. “The White House did not want Kavanaugh in such a situation. And if he said anything to the FBI that could prove false, he could end up in a lot of trouble.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... asey-ford/
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby sloopjohnc » 05 Oct 2018, 17:19

Sneelock wrote:here's the Repubs' next election cycle strategy:
bla bla bla Democrats
bla bla bla Media
bla bla bla Liberals
bla bla bla SOCIALISTS
bla bla bla bla bla


McConnell was off the hook in his statement this morning. And yeah, it was basically what you wrote above.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Count Machuki » 05 Oct 2018, 18:55

Count Machuki wrote:Jeff Flake is just trying to have his cake and eat it, too. Screw that guy. If he was truly down he would have voted Kavanaugh down in committee.


Flake's a yes. Surprise surprise.
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Butch Manly » 05 Oct 2018, 19:58

So, looks like your going to have a known sex-offender on the SC for life along with your sex-offender President. Something is seriously broken in the American political system (and this is massively significant for the rest of the world).

I realise that none of this is in any way insightful but I feel compelled to bemoan it, nevertheless. :(
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Re: Kavanaugh Hearings

Postby Sneelock » 05 Oct 2018, 20:02

Don’t bemoan too loud.
http://www.polksheriff.org/news-investi ... nforcement

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