yes or no?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

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NO!
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Re: yes or no?

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 18 Jul 2018, 20:38

toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food.


:lol:
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Re: yes or no?

Postby naughty boy » 18 Jul 2018, 20:49

Deebank wrote:
The Beatles wrote:No, not at all.

I know the counter-arguments - we have the advantage of being an island, there's diversity, we've long since come out of the post-War rut of canned food/overcooked veg/fear of flavour - but generally you walk down any street in the UK and what's on offer is fucking terrible. I mean, really really bad.


That’s just your lack of imagination.


:lol:

I can dream up all kinds of alternatives - but between you and me (and sorry to break this to you) if they're not there, they're not there!
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Re: yes or no?

Postby naughty boy » 18 Jul 2018, 20:52

This place is a ten-minute walk from where I'm staying right now:

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it's open round the clock but I've never seen a single soul in it - and I walk by at least twice a day.


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Re: yes or no?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 18 Jul 2018, 20:57

There's always some bastard showing off with their swanky lifestyle on here, showing off the glamour of their location. That menu needs some kind of graph representation, with chips in the middle.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby naughty boy » 18 Jul 2018, 21:08

:lol:

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Re: yes or no?

Postby Deebank » 18 Jul 2018, 21:08

toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food..


Wampum? Pemican?

There used to be a great place on Route one west out of Calgary called Chief Chiniki’s.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Rayge » 18 Jul 2018, 21:43

Deebank wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food..


Wampum?


You want us to eat beads now :shock: ~Is there no end to this crazed food-faddery?
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Hightea » 18 Jul 2018, 21:49

Like just about anywhere go to the supermarket pick up ingredients and make your food at home. Not that hard to make awesome food or follow a recipe. geez

I'm in the USA and never go to fast food crap. over salted, over cooked and too much sugar.

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Re: yes or no?

Postby Six String » 18 Jul 2018, 22:03

Rayge wrote:
Deebank wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food..


Wampum?


You want us to eat beads now :shock: ~Is there no end to this crazed food-faddery?


Just for the thrill of defecating them. :shock:
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Deebank » 19 Jul 2018, 10:55

toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food.


Of course you are largely wrong on both counts.
In the UK you can get excellent local farm cheese, meat, bread as well as sea food, cider and fruit and veg.

Same is true of the bits of the US and Canada I’ve visited.

Of course you can go to Tesco or Walmart and pick up nasty processed stuff but supermarkets in the UK are increasingly offering more quality stuff alongside the shit.

As for ‘native’ fast food, as I said ‘up thread’ you’re always in striking distance of a least a good chippy or Indian even in the remotest bits of the UK.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Deebank » 19 Jul 2018, 10:56

Rayge wrote:
Deebank wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food..


Wampum?


You want us to eat beads now :shock: ~Is there no end to this crazed food-faddery?


My ‘Little Plum’ standard Native American culture knowledge in full effect there.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Six String » 19 Jul 2018, 15:37

Deebank wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food.


Of course you are largely wrong on both counts.
In the UK you can get excellent local farm cheese, meat, bread as well as sea food, cider and fruit and veg.

Same is true of the bits of the US and Canada I’ve visited.

Of course you can go to Tesco or Walmart and pick up nasty processed stuff but supermarkets in the UK are increasingly offering more quality stuff alongside the shit.

As for ‘native’ fast food, as I said ‘up thread’ you’re always in striking distance of a least a good chippy or Indian even in the remotest bits of the UK.


I agree even though my time was limited (2.5 weeks). We ate really well on our trip to Scotland in 2013 at every price point from restaurants to the salmon dinner I cooked for us in our Glasgow apartment.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby sloopjohnc » 19 Jul 2018, 19:39

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I would describe eating this as a "half-hearted suicide-attempt."


Ahh, but you'd need a whole heart, stomach and intestinal system to digest it.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Jul 2018, 19:53

Deebank wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:"Native" UK food is largely crap (though kudos for inventing the sandwich), but so is native US food.


Of course you are largely wrong on both counts.
In the UK you can get excellent local farm cheese, meat, bread as well as sea food, cider and fruit and veg.

Same is true of the bits of the US and Canada I’ve visited.

Of course you can go to Tesco or Walmart and pick up nasty processed stuff but supermarkets in the UK are increasingly offering more quality stuff alongside the shit.

As for ‘native’ fast food, as I said ‘up thread’ you’re always in striking distance of a least a good chippy or Indian even in the remotest bits of the UK.


I am speaking merely of preparation style - I've no doubt you can get great ingredients - it's an argument I've made before. But is there a great UK cooking style not borrowed from somewhere else? You could make a case for barbecue in the US, but what's the UK equivalent? I mean, sandwiches, like I said, but other countries do much more interesting things with it.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby Penk! » 19 Jul 2018, 20:05

I live in the capital city of a wealthy, culturally advanced country where people have since the turn of the century realised that there is more to eating than just fish or meat with dill and a boiled potato, so fortunately I don’t have to go far to find genuinely good fast food.

Indeed just a twenty-minute walk from my flat is Teatern, a food court with ten bars run by top Swedish chefs where you can get everything from raamen to nobby pretentious pizzas to fresh fried fish to quesadillas and it’s all restaurant standard. It’s more expensive than KFC or whatever but you expect to pay more for quality.

We do sometimes stop for burgers on the road and then we normally go to Sweden’s own hamburger chain Max. It just tastes and feels better than McDonald’s etc.

I think I’ve probably been to KFC about twice in my entire life.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby naughty boy » 19 Jul 2018, 20:23

It's just crap.

I used to like the chicken portions but they're just mini ribcages covered in fried salt.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby sloopjohnc » 19 Jul 2018, 21:19

PENK wrote:Indeed just a twenty-minute walk from my flat is Teatern, a food court with ten bars run by top Swedish chefs where you can get everything from raamen to nobby pretentious pizzas to fresh fried fish to quesadillas and it’s all restaurant standard. It’s more expensive than KFC or whatever but you expect to pay more for quality.


A food court with "top" Swedish chefs?

I can't remember when I've had corporate chain fast food - I don't eat on the run much anymore. And I can't remember when I've stepped in a mall. It's been over five years. Usually, my son and I do Doordash or Grubhub, where you order from local restaurants and it's delivered to you.

It also probably helps that I stopped drinking. And you can usually find a food truck somewhere that serves decent Mexican food - a couple street tacos and I'm good to go.

I was seriously thinking about buying into a fast food franchise when they legalized pot in California.
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Re: yes or no?

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 19 Jul 2018, 21:27

sloopjohnc wrote:
PENK wrote:Indeed just a twenty-minute walk from my flat is Teatern, a food court with ten bars run by top Swedish chefs where you can get everything from raamen to nobby pretentious pizzas to fresh fried fish to quesadillas and it’s all restaurant standard. It’s more expensive than KFC or whatever but you expect to pay more for quality.


A food court with "top" Swedish chefs?


Is this another poor joke based on a ham-fisted, shopworn cliche or are you actually surprised?
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Postby Robert » 19 Jul 2018, 21:51

sloopjohnc wrote:Taco Bell is doing the same thing. It's called a Naked Chicken Taco. The shell is chicken.

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Although revolting it its own right, it’s still lightyears ahead of the other non-food pictured in the op.

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Re: yes or no?

Postby sloopjohnc » 19 Jul 2018, 22:32

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sloopjohnc wrote:
PENK wrote:Indeed just a twenty-minute walk from my flat is Teatern, a food court with ten bars run by top Swedish chefs where you can get everything from raamen to nobby pretentious pizzas to fresh fried fish to quesadillas and it’s all restaurant standard. It’s more expensive than KFC or whatever but you expect to pay more for quality.


A food court with "top" Swedish chefs?


Is this another poor joke based on a ham-fisted, shopworn cliche or are you actually surprised?


I was surprised that a "top" chef from anywhere, not just Swedish, is working in a food court. It's kind of a non-sequitur.

I was picturing amateur chefs training at whatever culinary institute and their teachers asking them what the ambitions are for chefing and them saying, "A Swedish food court." Maybe food courts in Sweden are different - I'm basing my frame of reference on malls. That's why I thought it was funny - I hope that answer is good enough for you.

My grandmother was Swedish and was one of the first bakers for United Airlines. I grew up with traditional Swedish cuisine through her and my mom. I never liked it, but Penk disposed of that notion that it's not fish, potatoes and dill pickle.

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