in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: Progress

Postby joklend » 27 Jun 2018, 15:03

I'm not so sure re the 'aversion to war' argument either. The 'mutual destruction' protective theory was often cited as a protection against mass wars prior to WW1 as well. Most wars are rooted in economic chaos and a dwindling of resources, things that are still very present and likely to exacerbate.

We haven't yet begun to see the full automation of the economy -- this will cause a lot of socio-economic conflict and upset. Again, the type of things that wars are built on.

The argument tends to be very ideologically loaded, though. One can believe in the need for progress without believing that it is "generally happening".

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Re: Progress

Postby Robert » 27 Jun 2018, 15:45

Toby wrote:Are things generally "getting better"?

Do you believe in the general perception that the human race is "progressing" towards an improved state?

Sure, people get older, less babies die at birth and income is growing around the world. Objectively, that's progress.