Political ideas you once had that now you're glad you don't.

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Political ideas you once had that now you're glad you don't.

Postby Minnie the Minx » 23 Mar 2018, 21:11

We've all had em!
When I was about 14, I rabidly argued that instead of testing cosmetics on animals we should test them on..... PRISONERS!

What thoughts came from your passionate but not yet fully developed brain? Eh?
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Postby sloopjohnc » 23 Mar 2018, 21:42

When I was younger, I believed more in self-sufficiency and smaller government. I have done a 180 on these views, starting in my early to mid '20s. I don't believe anyone should be discarded by society for any reason. America has enough resources, and various parties have to step in to make up for socio-economic, institutional, educational, and other economic, cultural deficiencies or cracks in the system to help people. If we don't, it just perpetuates itself from generation to generation.

I think I took these original views mainly because my folks were Depression era kids and pulled themselves up, but forgot that they had the GI bill and social security was started during their lifetimes.
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Postby gash on ignore » 23 Mar 2018, 21:46

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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 23 Mar 2018, 21:53

I used to believe that people would make good choices if they only knew the truth.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 23 Mar 2018, 21:58

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:I used to believe that people would make good choices if they only knew the truth.


You're glad you don't think that now?
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Postby sneelock » 23 Mar 2018, 22:07

I'm glad I don't. I just spent about 20 minutes talking to somebody who thinks Donald Trump will eventually be regarded as one of the best presidents in history. :shock: I made a lot of points he didn't disagree with but I could tell he wasn't even close to being swayed from his position.

I used to think "gay marriage" was a bridge too far and something that would never happen. I supported "civil unions" thinking this was some sort of adult compromise. I'm glad I've "evolved" on the issue (as O. used to say)
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 23 Mar 2018, 22:09

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Davey the Fat Boy wrote:I used to believe that people would make good choices if they only knew the truth.


You're glad you don't think that now?


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Postby LeBaron » 23 Mar 2018, 22:47

sCUNTlock wrote:I used to think "gay marriage" was a bridge too far and something that would never happen. I supported "civil unions" thinking this was some sort of adult compromise. I'm glad I've "evolved" on the issue (as O. used to say)


Good one! Me too, more or less.

I can’t think of specific things I believed that I don’t believe anymore, but my way of thinking has changed a lot. I’m more distanced from the emotion of issues and see things from a more procedural view.

Oh, I know! I thought there was no material difference between Al Gore and George Bush II and that there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans! What a dunce I was!
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 23 Mar 2018, 23:32

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sCUNTlock wrote:I used to think "gay marriage" was a bridge too far and something that would never happen. I supported "civil unions" thinking this was some sort of adult compromise. I'm glad I've "evolved" on the issue (as O. used to say)


Good one! Me too, more or less.


Most of us. But was that ever a matter of believing that civil unions were actually acceptable, or just the closest achievable thing?

I mean, I always regarded civil unions as “separate but equal”. I never viewed them as a good enough. But I absolutely supported them as an “adult compromise” that would allow the next battle to be even further down the field.

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Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 23 Mar 2018, 23:35

sloopjohnc wrote:When I was younger, I believed more in self-sufficiency and smaller government. I have done a 180 on these views, starting in my early to mid '20s. I don't believe anyone should be discarded by society for any reason. America has enough resources, and various parties have to step in to make up for socio-economic, institutional, educational, and other economic, cultural deficiencies or cracks in the system to help people. If we don't, it just perpetuates itself from generation to generation.

I think I took these original views mainly because my folks were Depression era kids and pulled themselves up, but forgot that they had the GI bill and social security was started during their lifetimes.


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Postby martha » 25 Mar 2018, 05:22

Ideas I held as a teen and no longer support.

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Postby Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman » 25 Mar 2018, 15:26

Letting people vote from age 16 onwards.

The belief that bright people eventually might learn to see that they're actually voting for their own oppressors.

The idea that I could succeed in making another person see a truth, when that person's income depends on precisely not seeing that truth.*)

*) OK I stole that one from Upton Sinclair.
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Postby Goat Boy » 25 Mar 2018, 16:17

Oh gawd.

Vaguely anarchist posturings
Right wingers are selfish wankers
Left wing revolutionary let's tear down the walls mofos crap

It's funny looking back.
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Postby Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman » 26 Mar 2018, 18:19

Goat Boy wrote:Oh gawd.

Vaguely anarchist posturings
Right wingers are selfish wankers
Left wing revolutionary let's tear down the walls mofos crap

It's funny looking back.


It is.
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Postby Harvey K-Tel » 26 Mar 2018, 18:39

When I ran for class president in grade 6 I campaigned on a platform I called "Free Candy Fridays" but the school refused to back me and I was literally thrown under the bus (thankfully it wasn't moving at the time) by the teacher's pet. I was completely disillusioned by the whole sordid process and now I can only look back on my failed political career and cringe.
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Re: Political ideas you once had that now you're glad you don't.

Postby Rayge » 26 Mar 2018, 18:47

Alleged Local Policeman wrote:We've all had em!


I've thought about this on and off for a couple of days, and while my ideas, such as they were, have changed and developed over the decades in reaction to age and circumstance, I can't remember a single one that I have disavowed and am now embarrassed to own.
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Postby Insouciant Western People » 27 Mar 2018, 09:42

I used to think, quite firmly, that patriotism and national loyalty were illogical or based on illusions, and sometimes quite foolish views to hold. I’ve changed my mind on that over the past few years.

I voted to Remain in the EU referendum. If there is another one, I'm now less sure of how I'll vote in it.

Up until fairly recently, I always maintained that I’d never consider voting Conservative, as a basic principle. That’s changed too.
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Postby Hepcat » 27 Mar 2018, 20:38

Back when I was in high school I didn't think of drug laws as a waste of scarce economic resources, but then again I really didn't think much about drug laws at all in those days. Since I didn't use drugs and the laws therefore didn't target me, I simply didn't think about them.

By my university years though it had dawned on me that government boondoggles of any sort could only be financed out of my pocketbook. Ever since about the age of twenty my core political belief has been that the sole legitimate function of government is to protect the individual's freedom of choice.
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Postby NMB » 27 Mar 2018, 20:40

Goat Boy wrote:Right wingers are selfish wankers


They aren’t ?
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Postby Hepcat » 27 Mar 2018, 20:42

Alleged Local Policeman wrote:When I was about 14, I rabidly argued that instead of testing cosmetics on animals we should test them on..... PRISONERS!


I've always thought that the company officers and directors should man up and have the drugs tested on themselves. "Hey, that's why you're paid the big bucks, isn't it?"

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