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Re: 'my sources Cannon and Ball tell me....'

Postby Jimbo » 30 May 2018, 13:41

The Prof wrote:I've said earlier in this thread (or another one) that there's something fishy about the Skripal affair.

It looks, though, like pro Putin assassins have shot dead a Russian journalist in Kiev yesterday.

Several bullets to the back of the head.


They don't know who shot the journalist. We can speculate it was "Putin assassins." I can speculate too. Maybe he was shot and it was made to look like a Kremlin hit. Think of the timing and the bad optics, especially when the Kremlin knows the west is watching and a Putin critic is mysteriously shot? It's terrible, of course, but I think no matter who did it the UK media/government will cynically use this poor guy's murder to add yet another reason why we all need to hate Russia.
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Postby Copehead » 30 May 2018, 16:07

is this the one who has turned up alive?
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Postby Diamond Dog » 30 May 2018, 16:55

Diamond Dog wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/29/russian-journalist-arkady-babchenko-shot-dead-in-kiev

Christ, these dissidents need to avoid these bastard bullets.



Which, apparently, he did! :lol:
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Postby Jimbo » 30 May 2018, 17:42

Another blame Russia false flag op gone sideways.
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Postby Copehead » 30 May 2018, 17:58

Jimbo wrote:Another blame Russia false flag op gone sideways.


I love the way the MSM covered it up by making it the lead story on every website from the BBC to the Times.

Despicable behavior.

Tell you what Jimbo, perhaps he is really dead and this is a Russian false flag op to make you think he is still alive, thought of that, he looks like a crisis actor to me and I can see subtle differences between this actor and the dead journalist.

Don't be a sheeple and fall for this Jimbo.
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Postby Jimbo » 01 Jun 2018, 18:42

Not much MSM discussion of the faked false flag death of the Russian journo. The most outrageous man bites dog story in maybe ever and crickets. Well ...

What if Babchenko had decided to stay “dead”?
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... What if he hadn’t turned up ever? What if he’d decided he couldn’t face the humiliation, or what if his SBU handlers decided it might be better if he just continued to be dead and skipped off the map somewhere with a few hundred grand and nice new ID.

What then?


https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/31/wha ... stay-dead/
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Postby Copehead » 01 Jun 2018, 19:27

Jimbo wrote:Not much MSM discussion of the faked false flag death of the Russian journo. The most outrageous man bites dog story in maybe ever and crickets. Well ...

What if Babchenko had decided to stay “dead”?
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... What if he hadn’t turned up ever? What if he’d decided he couldn’t face the humiliation, or what if his SBU handlers decided it might be better if he just continued to be dead and skipped off the map somewhere with a few hundred grand and nice new ID.

What then?


https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/31/wha ... stay-dead/


You mean apart from 3 articles on the front page of the Guardian about this Russian false flag operation to discredit the Ukraine?
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Postby Jimbo » 02 Jun 2018, 18:19

June 01, 2018

Ukraine - The Babchenko Hoax Was Part Of A Corporate Raid

The case of the death and resurrection of the Russian journalist Babchenko in Kiev is even more surreal than it seemed so far. According to Ukrainian sources and court documents the whole hoax was part of an attempt to raid and take over a private company.

Babchenko himself and the man who was hired to "kill" him had cooperated with the main branch of the Ukrainian national security service (SBU). The "operator", who is accused of having hired the "killer" for Russia, appeared in court. He claimed to have cooperated with the Ukrainian counter intelligence agency, which is side branch of the national security service. The accused "operator" is an executive of a private joint venture and has been under pressure over claims against his company. There are indications that the whole stunt may have been staged to get him "out of the way" to then take over the company he leads.

The suggestion is that high levels of the Ukrainian security services staged the whole affair not only to blame Russia but also for someone's personal gain.


http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/06/uk ... .html#more
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What is it with the UK and Russia? Russia never invaded the UK and it was Russia who did the most - among some admirable runner-ups - to defeat the Nazis. Nonetheless, you - more than the Russians - have been at it for a long time.

In an effort to make sense of this situation and to hopefully drive some sense into your thick heads there is this. Please read it and comment. It's a little long but quite readable. Except for the conclusion which posits you are merely obsessed with demonizing Russia a comment writer disagrees and I tend to agree with him/her. You are obsessed but it is US foreign policy which is the driving you nuts, which is gaslighting your society. Nonetheless, the article makes many, many strong points and thinks that you and Russia can help each other and should make up and be friends.


Letter From Britain: An Establishment Blinded By Russophobia
June 15, 2018

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/15/l ... ssophobia/
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Postby Copehead » 16 Jun 2018, 08:37

Jimbo wrote:What is it with the UK and Russia? Russia never invaded the UK and it was Russia who did the most - among some admirable runner-ups - to defeat the Nazis. Nonetheless, you - more than the Russians - have been at it for a long time.

In an effort to make sense of this situation and to hopefully drive some sense into your thick heads there is this. Please read it and comment. It's a little long but quite readable. Except for the conclusion which posits you are merely obsessed with demonizing Russia a comment writer disagrees and I tend to agree with him/her. You are obsessed but it is US foreign policy which is the driving you nuts, which is gaslighting your society. Nonetheless, the article makes many, many strong points and thinks that you and Russia can help each other and should make up and be friends.


Letter From Britain: An Establishment Blinded By Russophobia
June 15, 2018

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/15/l ... ssophobia/


You mean apart from it being a neo-fascist Kleptocracy?
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Re: 'my sources Cannon and Ball tell me....'

Postby Jimbo » 16 Jun 2018, 10:54

Copehead wrote:
Jimbo wrote:What is it with the UK and Russia? Russia never invaded the UK and it was Russia who did the most - among some admirable runner-ups - to defeat the Nazis. Nonetheless, you - more than the Russians - have been at it for a long time.

In an effort to make sense of this situation and to hopefully drive some sense into your thick heads there is this. Please read it and comment. It's a little long but quite readable. Except for the conclusion which posits you are merely obsessed with demonizing Russia a comment writer disagrees and I tend to agree with him/her. You are obsessed but it is US foreign policy which is the driving you nuts, which is gaslighting your society. Nonetheless, the article makes many, many strong points and thinks that you and Russia can help each other and should make up and be friends.


Letter From Britain: An Establishment Blinded By Russophobia
June 15, 2018

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/15/l ... ssophobia/


You mean apart from it being a neo-fascist Kleptocracy?


I wish I wouldn't have to say this but thank you for making my point with your knee jerk reaction. A "neo-fascist kleptocracy" isn't even a thing you know. And if it were you can call me a "whataboutist" because it would describe the US and the UK to a tee what with our Prop or Not censorship and big business cozier than ever with our politicians.
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Re: 'my sources Cannon and Ball tell me....'

Postby Copehead » 16 Jun 2018, 10:59

Jimbo wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Jimbo wrote:What is it with the UK and Russia? Russia never invaded the UK and it was Russia who did the most - among some admirable runner-ups - to defeat the Nazis. Nonetheless, you - more than the Russians - have been at it for a long time.

In an effort to make sense of this situation and to hopefully drive some sense into your thick heads there is this. Please read it and comment. It's a little long but quite readable. Except for the conclusion which posits you are merely obsessed with demonizing Russia a comment writer disagrees and I tend to agree with him/her. You are obsessed but it is US foreign policy which is the driving you nuts, which is gaslighting your society. Nonetheless, the article makes many, many strong points and thinks that you and Russia can help each other and should make up and be friends.


Letter From Britain: An Establishment Blinded By Russophobia
June 15, 2018

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/15/l ... ssophobia/


You mean apart from it being a neo-fascist Kleptocracy?


I wish I wouldn't have to say this but thank you for making my point with your knee jerk reaction. A "neo-fascist kleptocracy" isn't even a thing you know. And if it were you can call me a "whataboutist" because it would describe the US and the UK to a tee what with our Prop or Not censorship and big business cozier than ever with our politicians.


A neo-fascist kleptocracy is a thing, both of those words have definitions and both of them apply to Russia.

I have no desire to change Russia or fight Russia by the idea of being friendly with Russia is stupid, it is a neo-fascist state run by people who embezzle billions from the Russian people and murder their opponents at home and abroad. They have also worked using soft power to undermine democracy abroad using venal fools like Farage and Manafort and useful idiots who'll believe anything like you.
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Postby Samoan » 16 Jun 2018, 13:47

Jimbo wrote:What is it with the UK and Russia? Russia never invaded the UK and it was Russia who did the most - among some admirable runner-ups - to defeat the Nazis. Nonetheless, you - more than the Russians - have been at it for a long time.

There's always been 'issues'. Have you heard of The Great Game ?

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Postby Jimbo » 30 Jun 2018, 15:10

This is the same interviewer who made an ass of herself interviewing Peterson and here she goes again with Russian FM Lavrov. Kudos are in order I guess because this was broadcast on UK Channel 4 shown to real people who, if they merely watch, will see how obnoxious and childish the UK position is vis a vis Russia. Lavrov is so smart, so frank and simply right.

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Postby Jimbo » 01 Jul 2018, 06:10

"THE REASONS for the tension between the United States and Russia are well-established. Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine, instigated a war in eastern Ukraine, intervened to save the dictatorship of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, interfered in the U.S. presidential election campaign to harm Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump, poisoned a former intelligence officer on British soil and continues to meddle in the elections of other democracies."


I snipped this from a Paul Craig Roberts article but it is the opening paragraph from a Wall Street Journal editorial regarding the upcoming Trump-Putin meeting. It relates in my mind to the Lavrov interview above in that the media present the "Russia bad!" narrative as truth when it has been debunked over and over in many fora and by a diverse group of pundits. If, however, it rings true to your ears you are a) not alone but b) brainwashed. Roberts goes into more detail re the meeting and who wants to stop it but just reading that bit stopped me in my tracks. What horse shit!

https://www.opednews.com/articles/The-T ... 1-229.html
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Fears grow over prospect of Trump ‘peace deal’ with Putin


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fear ... -6f69gqq27

:o Not peace! Anything but peace!

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You're a paid shill for the Russian government, Jimbo.
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Postby Copehead » 02 Jul 2018, 21:29

Jimbo wrote:This is the same interviewer who made an ass of herself interviewing Peterson and here she goes again with Russian FM Lavrov. Kudos are in order I guess because this was broadcast on UK Channel 4 shown to real people who, if they merely watch, will see how obnoxious and childish the UK position is vis a vis Russia. Lavrov is so smart, so frank and simply right.



Yeah those stupid Brits getting all arsey about a foreign power, or their proxies, spraying nerve agents around their cathedral cities.

As I have said before Jimbo, Putin would stick you in a gas chamber without a moments hesitation; your shilling for Kleptocratic Fascist baffles me, what the fuck do you get out of it?
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Copehead wrote:
spraying nerve agents around their cathedral cities.



You forgot to mention "the children."

A city so sacred they'd locate Porton Downs on its outskirts.

Porton Down is a United Kingdom science park, situated just northeast of the village of Porton near Salisbury, in Wiltshire, England. It is home to two UK Government facilities: a site of the Ministry of Defence's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) – known for over 100 years as one of the UK's most secretive and controversial military research facilities, occupying 7,000 acres ... On maps, the land surrounding the complex is identified as a "Danger Area"

The site is commonly confused with the nearby chemical-biological-radiological-nuclear (CBRN) training facility, the Defence CBRN Centre at Winterbourne Gunner....


Indeed I was confused thinking Porton Downs was a chemical weapon testing facility. That facility is still located "nearby" the same cathedrals.
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Postby Copehead » 03 Jul 2018, 09:23

Jimbo wrote:
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spraying nerve agents around their cathedral cities.



You forgot to mention "the children."

A city so sacred they'd locate Porton Downs on its outskirts.

Porton Down is a United Kingdom science park, situated just northeast of the village of Porton near Salisbury, in Wiltshire, England. It is home to two UK Government facilities: a site of the Ministry of Defence's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) – known for over 100 years as one of the UK's most secretive and controversial military research facilities, occupying 7,000 acres ... On maps, the land surrounding the complex is identified as a "Danger Area"

The site is commonly confused with the nearby chemical-biological-radiological-nuclear (CBRN) training facility, the Defence CBRN Centre at Winterbourne Gunner....


Indeed I was confused thinking Porton Downs was a chemical weapon testing facility. That facility is still located "nearby" the same cathedrals.


There's nearby and then there is around the town centre.

Why would you even try to justify this or indulge in whataboutary in defence of a Kleptocratic fascist who would happily push you into an oven?
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