Nick wrote:Davey the Fat Boy wrote:I’m fine with that. But the video you posted wasn’t simply decrying thugs. The debate was about whether colleges should allow speakers of all positions, even when large numbers of students object.
I think it’s all high-minded and well-meaning to opine that colleges should allow all points of view, but to impose that on them is ultimately paternalistic.
Better to allow students to play out the whole issue on their own terms.
I think that's a slippery slope. To cite an extreme example, would the students of Humboldt university in 1938 have allowed a Jewish speaker to make their voice heard? Opposite the opera platz where a few years earlier, academics, librarians and students burned the books of authors whose opinions were deemed to be verdammt?
A minority opinion is not always, nor necessarily, a wrong opinion.
I think there are few things more appropriate in a university than to allow all voices to be heard. I don't think that's 'imposing' anything on students. I think it's encouraging them to mature, to deal with conflicting and challenging ideas, to develop their own thoughts and opinions, and to debate.
Slippery slope arguments are generally pretty unconvincing...and slippery slope arguments that rely on picturing oneself slipping into Nazisim even more so.
Ultimately what you aren’t seeing is that you are advocating to shut down debate. The debate in question is: “Do we owe _____ a platform in the name of free speech”?
You and a few others here would like to shut down that debate as if it were settled science. You’d like our kids to acquiesce to your opinion on the subject without allowing them to work through all permutations of the issue on their own. I’m not sure how you think that denying them agency in this struggle will ultimately make them more committed protectors of it. I suspect that the opposite is more likely.
There are very few debates more important than this one. If we fail to allow our youth the experience of getting their hands dirty in this arena, they’ll be sitting ducks for any sophisticated operator attempting to manipulate them into whatever brand of fascism is blowing into town at any given time.