Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

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Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 12:50

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/06/violence-breaks-self-proclaimed-antifascists-shut-alt-right/

group of people calling themselves London Antifa stormed a right-wing talk at a London university last night, with the intention of shutting it down.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/kings-college-london-building-evacuated-after-masked-protesters-storm-talk-featuring-alt-right-a3782206.html

King's College London building evacuated after masked protesters storm talk featuring 'alt right' Vlogger


Looks like this is starting in England now. :shock:
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby The Modernist » 06 Mar 2018, 14:51

Stuff like that has always gone on in universities Markus. Nothing to see here.

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Postby bye » 06 Mar 2018, 14:57

Yeah I know.
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Postby Goat Boy » 06 Mar 2018, 15:08

Idiots.
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Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 15:18

The Modernist wrote:Stuff like that has always gone on in universities Markus. Nothing to see here.


It's not really happing in England though is it? That' the reason for posting it. I know it happens a lot in the US.
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby The Modernist » 06 Mar 2018, 15:57

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The Modernist wrote:Stuff like that has always gone on in universities Markus. Nothing to see here.


It's not really happing in England though is it? That' the reason for posting it. I know it happens a lot in the US.


Yes it's the kind of thing that's always happened in British universities, at least since the mid sixties.

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Postby yomptepi » 06 Mar 2018, 16:00

It is also a tactic of Momentum to No platform anyone who disagrees with them in any way. Something we will all have to get used to come the purges.
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Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 16:01

RE MOD:

Agreed but I think that's more an generalization. I'm talking more about how it's connected to today's political and social climate that seems to be happening weekly in the US, and this is the first time, I've heard of it, happening in the UK.
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Postby Jeemo » 06 Mar 2018, 16:09

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Postby Rayge » 06 Mar 2018, 16:12

The Modernist wrote:
Dr Markus wrote:
The Modernist wrote:Stuff like that has always gone on in universities Markus. Nothing to see here.


It's not really happing in England though is it? That' the reason for posting it. I know it happens a lot in the US.


Yes it's the kind of thing that's always happened in British universities, at least since the mid sixties.


As someone who was at university in the mid sixties, I can confirm this is true, although it was very rare for anyone right of the Conservatives (then a centre right party) to be offered a platform.
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yomptepi wrote:It is also a tactic of Momentum to No platform anyone who disagrees with them in any way. Something we will all have to get used to come the purges.


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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Sneelock » 06 Mar 2018, 16:54

I think the results of Italy's election over the weekend casts a different light on this.
Hell, I think the results of MANY recent elections casts a different light on this.
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 16:57

Yeah the shutting down of any speech you don't like is very dangerous, even if it is wrong. If you use this method instead of debate, I don't think you'll ever truly win.
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Sneelock » 06 Mar 2018, 17:01

I listen all day to people saying we'll never get rid off ALL the guns so any gun measures are wrong.

I think it's a real shame that so many people expend so much more energy on people speaking out AGAINST fascism than against the voices raised FOR it.
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Sneelock » 06 Mar 2018, 17:03

we treat pro-fascits like a fucking lifestyle choice now? it's hate speech. those clowns in Italy really promote ethnic cleansing. you stand by and let that brush fire grow or do you get a bucket and try to put it out?

me, I just stand around and complain about what others are doing because I'm a people person and that's where the action is.
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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Snarfyguy » 06 Mar 2018, 17:22

Dr Markus wrote:Yeah the shutting down of any speech you don't like is very dangerous, even if it is wrong.

On the other hand,

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Re: Self-Proclaimed Antifascists Shut Down 'Alt-Right' Speech At Kings College London

Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 17:26

The issue with above is you're not defending intolerance, you're defending their right to speak. To me that's two different things. The other problem is if it's outside the law, who polices it until it's not needed anymore or not needed as much? Who draws the line what is acceptable for their cause and what is not?
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Postby The Modernist » 06 Mar 2018, 18:05

What you're not considering in your responses Markus is the point people are making about the rise of the far right, that was the danger that Snee was referring to in his post.
Now I don't know if this guy is a neofascist or not. I'd have to find out more about him. But I find the label 'alt-right' very woolly, what does it actually mean.

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Postby Dr Markus » 06 Mar 2018, 18:08

I am fully considering the rise of the far right, i'm asking at what point does using their own tactic against them stop? or who polices it? and who says when it goes too far?
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Postby Pansy Puff » 06 Mar 2018, 18:14

Indeed. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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