German Dave wrote:socialism is dead anyway.
Progress!
German Dave wrote:socialism is dead anyway.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
Nonsense to the aggressiveness, I've seen more aggression on the my little pony message board......I mean I was told.
German Dave wrote:
Interesting. I think he obviously sees Westminster for what it should be, a place of procedure but also a voice of the nation. I don't think, from what I have heard, that he buys into it as some kind of status symbol, as many surely do. He famously eschews all that old boys' club shit.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
Drama Queenie wrote:You are a chauvinist of the quaintest kind. About as threatening as Jack Duckworth, you are a harmless relic of that cherished era when things were 'different'. Now get back to drawing a moustache on that page three model
The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?
yomptepi wrote:As does Frances O'Grady's child.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...
The Modernist wrote:The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?
Which one do you think Markus?
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
The Modernist wrote:The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?
Which one do you think Markus?
Drama Queenie wrote:You are a chauvinist of the quaintest kind. About as threatening as Jack Duckworth, you are a harmless relic of that cherished era when things were 'different'. Now get back to drawing a moustache on that page three model
The Great Defector wrote:The Modernist wrote:The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?
Which one do you think Markus?
Well if they both had sense they'd both want to give it back, thing is we don't want it either.
German Dave wrote:Nikki Gradual wrote:
I guess my point is that Jezza only seems different now because he has come to prominence immediately after the New Labour era. Before that shit-shower he was the back-bench norm and probably still should be judged as so. Probably a bit more left-leaning than most, but still playing a role in the establishment, still a little bit too much in love with the processes and traditions of Westminster. I have had the good/mis fortune to meet a fair few MPs and it is astonishing how intoxicated they become by the Westminster bubble and the way it operates, the very concept of parliament becoming their opiate, separating them from the people and their causes. Not that they don't want to represent people, but that the status, process and freedom of Government to them somehow becomes more important than the basics of why they wanted to be there in the first place. They all seem to sometimes get so wrapped up in their sense of self-importance over the democracy thing that they lose track of their purpose. And Jezza fits that type entirely, often pontificating over the process rather than the results. You can see how much he loves the Westminster game, the fencing of PMQs etc. He's been in parliament for 35 years and no one had heard of him until 2015. Isn't that a bid odd?
Interesting. I think he obviously sees Westminster for what it should be, a place of procedure but also a voice of the nation. I don't think, from what I have heard, that he buys into it as some kind of status symbol, as many surely do. He famously eschews all that old boys' club shit.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
Diamond Dog wrote:Samoan wrote:Copehead wrote:I have just read about the latest Corbyn smear - that he was passing information to an Eastern Block spy in the 80s
Not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility. There's history for that by another Labour MP.
In earlier years, John Stonehouse was spying for Czechoslovakia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stonehouse
Nothing like a bit of "guilt by extremely tenuous association" is there?
Does that mean every Tory PM should resign because they may have had someone in their cabinet sleeping with an escort who was also sleeping with a Russian spy as well?
Jeez. If that;'s the best you (or anyone else) can do, I'd suggest Corbyn is a certainty at the next election.
Deebank wrote:I must say I enjoyed Ben Bradshaw's grovelling apology.
I do hope Jezza is giving the reparations money to a decent and appropriate charity... Do the Sandinistas still take donations? How about something in Cuba?