Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

I prefer....

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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Goat Boy » 19 Feb 2018, 22:04

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Progress!
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby The Modernist » 19 Feb 2018, 22:15

Great post by Griff.

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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Belle Lettre » 19 Feb 2018, 22:26

It was. But JC's no Rees-Mogg.
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Samoan » 19 Feb 2018, 23:10

He's got his Brief onto it...

" Meanwhile, a spokesman for Mr Corbyn said the leader had instructed lawyers to contact Conservative MP Ben Bradley over a tweet he said was libellous.

"Jeremy has instructed solicitors to contact Ben Bradley to delete his libellous tweet or face legal action," the spokesman said.

The tweet, which claimed the Labour leader "sold British secrets to Communist spies", has now been deleted."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43111794
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby yomptepi » 20 Feb 2018, 00:00

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Interesting. I think he obviously sees Westminster for what it should be, a place of procedure but also a voice of the nation. I don't think, from what I have heard, that he buys into it as some kind of status symbol, as many surely do. He famously eschews all that old boys' club shit.


Yet he equally embraces nepotism so fervently. How odd.
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Goat Boy » 20 Feb 2018, 08:25

Isn’t Seb Corbyn an assistant to McDonnell or summat?
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism

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Postby yomptepi » 20 Feb 2018, 08:41

And McDonnell' son works for Corbyn. As does Frances O'Grady's child. All very cosy. And let's not forget Stephen Kinnock, dropped into a safe seat by his dad. For the many, not the few remember...
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Dr Markus » 20 Feb 2018, 12:24

Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby The Modernist » 20 Feb 2018, 12:36

The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?


Which one do you think Markus?

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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby clive gash » 20 Feb 2018, 12:38

yomptepi wrote:As does Frances O'Grady's child.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Goat Boy » 20 Feb 2018, 12:40

The Modernist wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?


Which one do you think Markus?


:lol:

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Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Dr Markus » 20 Feb 2018, 12:47

The Modernist wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?


Which one do you think Markus?


Well if they both had sense they'd both want to give it back, thing is we don't want it either.
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby yomptepi » 20 Feb 2018, 12:52

The Great Defector wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:Which one will more likely want to keep Norn Iron?


Which one do you think Markus?


Well if they both had sense they'd both want to give it back, thing is we don't want it either.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Nikki Gradual » 20 Feb 2018, 15:11

German Dave wrote:
Nikki Gradual wrote:
I guess my point is that Jezza only seems different now because he has come to prominence immediately after the New Labour era. Before that shit-shower he was the back-bench norm and probably still should be judged as so. Probably a bit more left-leaning than most, but still playing a role in the establishment, still a little bit too much in love with the processes and traditions of Westminster. I have had the good/mis fortune to meet a fair few MPs and it is astonishing how intoxicated they become by the Westminster bubble and the way it operates, the very concept of parliament becoming their opiate, separating them from the people and their causes. Not that they don't want to represent people, but that the status, process and freedom of Government to them somehow becomes more important than the basics of why they wanted to be there in the first place. They all seem to sometimes get so wrapped up in their sense of self-importance over the democracy thing that they lose track of their purpose. And Jezza fits that type entirely, often pontificating over the process rather than the results. You can see how much he loves the Westminster game, the fencing of PMQs etc. He's been in parliament for 35 years and no one had heard of him until 2015. Isn't that a bid odd?


Interesting. I think he obviously sees Westminster for what it should be, a place of procedure but also a voice of the nation. I don't think, from what I have heard, that he buys into it as some kind of status symbol, as many surely do. He famously eschews all that old boys' club shit.


Maybe it's just that I expected him to light a bigger fire under more stuff more quickly. Thanks to the wave of euphoria, I saw him as the the end of UK political stagnation as we know it (you know the rancid self-serving system that I refused to endorse by voting for it) and it has dawned on me since that he is not going to tear that down because he believes in the process and its pillars. I still have faith, though, simply because I believe he wants to improve life for the greatest number of people in this country and to approach that equitably. And that's what i believe in. Proper change, not change that is tempered and compromised by first a desperation to get into government at all costs, and then to stay there. I am not one of those (many) people who after six months goes "Corbyn's not working, he will never get elected, call Andy Burnham or David Milliband." I will only vote for someone who stands for something. I would almost (and I stress "almost") rather vote for a Tory with conviction (not Rees-Mogg though) than a Labourite without.
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Diamond Dog » 24 Feb 2018, 18:32

Ben Bradley to apologise for libellous Tweet about Corbyn...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... spy-claims

“On 19 February 2018 I made a seriously defamatory statement on my Twitter account, ‘Ben Bradley MP (bbradleymp)’, about Jeremy Corbyn, alleging he sold British secrets to communist spies. I have since deleted the defamatory tweet. I have agreed to pay an undisclosed substantial sum of money to a charity of his choice, and I will also pay his legal costs.

“I fully accept that my statement was wholly untrue and false. I accept that I caused distress and upset to Jeremy Corbyn by my untrue and false allegations, suggesting he had betrayed his country by collaborating with foreign spies.

“I am very sorry for publishing this untrue and false statement and I have no hesitation in offering my unreserved and unconditional apology to Jeremy Corbyn for the distress I have caused him.”


So - now who was it claiming that it was quite possibly true? I have no doubt they'll be back on here to retract their statement as well. :roll:
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Diamond Dog » 26 Feb 2018, 08:59

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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Goat Boy » 26 Feb 2018, 15:06

Another vote for Mogg!!
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Diamond Dog » 26 Feb 2018, 15:19

Diamond Dog wrote:
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Copehead wrote:I have just read about the latest Corbyn smear - that he was passing information to an Eastern Block spy in the 80s

Not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility. There's history for that by another Labour MP.
In earlier years, John Stonehouse was spying for Czechoslovakia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stonehouse


Nothing like a bit of "guilt by extremely tenuous association" is there?

Does that mean every Tory PM should resign because they may have had someone in their cabinet sleeping with an escort who was also sleeping with a Russian spy as well?

Jeez. If that;'s the best you (or anyone else) can do, I'd suggest Corbyn is a certainty at the next election.


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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby Deebank » 26 Feb 2018, 16:35

I must say I enjoyed Ben Bradshaw's grovelling apology.
I do hope Jezza is giving the reparations money to a decent and appropriate charity... Do the Sandinistas still take donations? How about something in Cuba?
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Re: Rees Mogg or Corbyn?

Postby copehead » 27 Feb 2018, 05:13

Deebank wrote:I must say I enjoyed Ben Bradshaw's grovelling apology.
I do hope Jezza is giving the reparations money to a decent and appropriate charity... Do the Sandinistas still take donations? How about something in Cuba?


I think the idea is to give it to local charities in Mansfield that look after poor children seeing as Bradley tweeted that poor people shouldn't be allowed to breed if they can't afford children a few years back, what a charmless cunt the man is, glad he is stupid too.
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