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Postby The Modernist » 11 Jan 2018, 21:55

As you probably know he is now calling for a second Brexit referendum. I must admit I haven't yet read in depth his motivations or reasoning for doing this. It does, on the face of it, seem perplexing to me, like hearing Margaret Thatcher suddenly argue the case for nationalisation or something.
So what's your take? What's his game?

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Postby Bumblecorn Cats Nightmare » 11 Jan 2018, 22:04

He’s said that the results would show that people are EVEN MORE KEEN to leave, now.

Which is further proof that he’s a deluded arse.
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Postby nev gash » 11 Jan 2018, 22:13

Two more years in the spotlight as he builds his brand.
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Postby Bumblecorn Cats Nightmare » 11 Jan 2018, 22:21

I'd still have a drink with him. Which I couldn't say for any of the Lab or Tory front benchers.
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Re: Farage

Postby echolalia » 11 Jan 2018, 23:48

There was a guy on Sky News today talking about Farage’s sudden re-emergence into the media spotlight: “He’s like a fruit machine in a pub that starts bleeping and flashing when no-one pays it any attention for five minutes.”

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Re: Farage

Postby sneelock » 11 Jan 2018, 23:58

:lol: sounds familiar!
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Re: Farage

Postby Toby » 12 Jan 2018, 07:25

Farage needs the EU. For one, he would be back in charge of a resurgent UKIP.

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Postby Insouciant Western People » 12 Jan 2018, 08:49

Yep. I think a lot of it is that he's just got bored, and misses the limelight.
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Postby Toby » 12 Jan 2018, 09:13

I've always felt since the Referendum that the upside of Leave would be the destruction of UKIP and to a certain extent a "stunting" of far-right parties.

If we do Remain, then I think the downside would be their return.

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Postby Darkness_Fish » 12 Jan 2018, 09:26

In the EU, he's got a soapbox. Without it, he's got a shrug and dead bodies lining empty streets.
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Postby Goat Boy » 12 Jan 2018, 11:01

OCTO-ARM wrote:He’s said that the results would show that people are EVEN MORE KEEN to leave, now.

Which is further proof that he’s a deluded arse.


Frog faced cunt.

I suspect another referendum would favour Remain but not by that much
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Postby Insouciant Western People » 12 Jan 2018, 11:28

Goat Boy wrote:I suspect another referendum would favour Remain but not by that much


A ComRes poll reported in the Mirror today has the majority of people opposed to a second referendum, but also states that if a second one were called, 55% said they would vote to Remain.
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Re: Farage

Postby echolalia » 12 Jan 2018, 11:39

I’ve always thought Farage would make a good Viz character. Following the Finbar Saunders template we could have Nigel Farage and his UKIP Garage, where he runs a garage that only accepts British cars. (Business is very slack indeed, naturally, giving him plenty of time to get involved in all kinds of ropey adventures like doffing migrants over the head with a spanner, going into politics etc.)

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Postby Toby » 12 Jan 2018, 12:02

Farage is arguably the most successful British politician of the modern era. By that, I would say that for someone who has never been elected to MP he has managed to change the course of British history in being a prime force behind the decision to hold the Referendum, which has been his objective. I don't like him, but in a way you have to admire his ability to make it happen.

If there's one thing I do like about the Establishment, it is that it has made it very clear in no uncertain terms that he is not welcome in it.

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Postby Deebank » 12 Jan 2018, 13:59

Toby wrote:Farage is arguably the most successful British politician of the modern era. By that, I would say that for someone who has never been elected to MP he has managed to change the course of British history in being a prime force behind the decision to hold the Referendum, which has been his objective. I don't like him, but in a way you have to admire his ability to make it happen.

If there's one thing I do like about the Establishment, it is that it has made it very clear in no uncertain terms that he is not welcome in it.


While kowtowing to his every whim... admirable indeed!
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Re: Farage

Postby The Modernist » 12 Jan 2018, 14:53

Deebank wrote:
Toby wrote:Farage is arguably the most successful British politician of the modern era. By that, I would say that for someone who has never been elected to MP he has managed to change the course of British history in being a prime force behind the decision to hold the Referendum, which has been his objective. I don't like him, but in a way you have to admire his ability to make it happen.

If there's one thing I do like about the Establishment, it is that it has made it very clear in no uncertain terms that he is not welcome in it.


While kowtowing to his every whim... admirable indeed!


Well yes exactly, I don't buy the idea of him as some maverick outsider, although that's the image he likes to project. If the Tories could be scathing about UKIP, it's only because they saw them as a threat to their vote, there's no natural moral high ground here.

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Postby Snarfyguy » 12 Jan 2018, 15:14

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Postby andymacandy » 12 Jan 2018, 15:30

Toby wrote:Farage is arguably the most successful British politician of the modern era. By that, I would say that for someone who has never been elected to MP he has managed to change the course of British history in being a prime force behind the decision to hold the Referendum, which has been his objective. I don't like him, but in a way you have to admire his ability to make it happen.

If there's one thing I do like about the Establishment, it is that it has made it very clear in no uncertain terms that he is not welcome in it.

He wasn't the prime force- he cleverly piggy-backed the Tory anti-EU MP's hold on Camerons knackers, and rode that to its conclusion.
Like Boris, he has a peculiar power over the British media, who despite his limited power appear to give him a loud voice in British politics these days.
And as stated above, he doesnt like full time work, but fancies the idea of another six months in the spotlight.

For me, he is only rivalled by Trump in his ability to fool a lot of people at an important time.I utterly despise them both, and cannot fathom how we got to a place where they both have a serious (sic) voice.
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Re: Farage

Postby Jimbo » 12 Jan 2018, 15:35

From what I hear you're never leaving the EU, despite the referendum. Another would be silly.
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