The Modernist wrote:
Moleskin wrote:. It would be strange for him to have a go at people with Down's syndrome, rather than the way society deals with people with Down's syndrome.
It wouldn't be so strange, as JC says he's a nasty piece of work. It speaks volumes that he wouldn't get into any kind of dialogue with the Down Syndrome mother, typical bully and coward.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8611275.stm
He gets away with his nastiness because he usually targets it at people who he knows his lefty audience don't like, the Katie Price joke being a prime example of this.
I don't want to come across as the number one Frankie Boyle apologist or anything, because if he did mock those with Down's syndrome, then fuck him, basically. But I've not heard the material, neither have you, and I hate just having the reports of someone who took offense being then taken as matter of fact that the material was offensive in its nature or intent. I'd hazard it's difficult to get into a meaningful dialogue about the joke on stage, but he did seem to actually consider it by asking what their issue was.
Interesting that he still stands by it. I've just been searching the internet for any actual facts on all this stuff, and Boyle's attack on Mark Watson for writing about this joke is interesting both for its cuntishness, and the fact he stands by it (can't find Watson's article anymore):
"Hi Mark. Just saw this. Amused to see moral grandstanding from a notorious sellout. You are commenting on a joke you didn't see, and don't quote, so presumably you don't even know what it was? Amazing. I'd hate for you to pass through life with no self awareness, so let me point something out. You built up a certain indie credibility over the years with your stand-up. You then sold that credibility to sell cider. Why don't you leave the discussions of jokes to people who have heard them and stick to pushing booze on teenagers? In a country of alcoholics. Yours, Frankie x"
Like fast-moving clouds casting shadows against a hillside, the melody-loop shuddered with a sense of the sublime, the awful unknowable majesty of the world.