Davey the Fat Boy wrote:The Great Defector wrote: It is important because we don't want a witchhunt. If you think that it is a worthy thing to give up, innocent people or ALL men can get called racist/sexist and fuck them because minorities/women have been mistreated for centuries, then you have to ask yourself are you looking for revenge or equality? Where does it stop? Because you're in a certain demographic you should just take your medicine even though you did nothing wrong. Can I call all British people today cunts for what happened over 800 years ago in Ireland? Should US people today just take it if a native American calls them cunts for what happened their ancestors? This isn't a debate about which is more important, i'm raising this point because it should be taken in to consideration. Otherwise, you white racist/sexist pig (by your rationale it doesn't matter if you've done any of this or not) everyone's guilty by lack of choice of their up bringing, the country they were born in, and not having a choice in having white skin. White people should just shut the fuck up and say nothing, their point of view is worthless? Fuck that.
What “witch hunt?” Do you actually feel as if you are in danger simply because people make this argument?
Let go of thinking of racism as something tied to personal actions or attitudes. Think of it instead as upholding a system that is rife with racial bias.
Nobody is arguing that all white men are active racists. But we all benefit from societal norms and assumptions that effectively incarcerate black men at an unacceptable rate, underfund black schools, maintain a notable wealth gap, and continue racist housing policies.
All of these things persist because white people control the levers of power, and because the majority of us either vote for the policies that perpetuate them, or at least don’t consider than problematic enough to take a stand.
So the issue isn’t “all white people” as individuals. The issue is “white people” as a larger cohort.
Make sense?
I don't feel endangered at all that's just a lazy response, my original point it that people should be using certain word as not to make it sound that ALL white people are responsible. You can say "the issue is white people” as a larger cohort." That's another way of saying all white people. If a white person gets a job over a black person because they are white, it's not their fault. It's the fault of the hiring person who is obviously racist. So they are the one that should be prosecuted. If the white person who got the job doesn't know the person hiring is racist, they should just automatically presume? or just say themselves well I got the job but i'm gonna feel guilty every second while I do it?
But we all benefit from societal norms and assumptions that effectively incarcerate black men at an unacceptable rate, underfund black schools, maintain a notable wealth gap, and continue racist housing policies.
How personally have you contributed to all the things have you mentioned by being white?
1. Have you lied or got off with something concerning the cops, so the cops just blamed a black guy and let you go?
2. Have you personally had any interaction with the US version of the minister of education and turned a blind eye when these schools don't get funding? Have you kids in a "white" school that does get the proper funding and turned a blind eye when they get more compared to your nearest "black" school?
3. Are you wealthy? when the elections were on did you research deeply in to Trump and Clinton's tax suggestions and think "i'll vote for trump, he's gonna save me more money"?
4. Do you knowingly have your current house because a black person got turned down for it because they were black? If so, do you feel guilty or the person that sold you the house is racist and you didn't know.
...and just so we're clear here, black people in the US are oppressed, but it's by racists not all white people.
