Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Dr Markus » 14 Dec 2017, 12:14

Off Friday week, got a half day, rush present buy then down t'pub for the Liverpool/Arsenal game. Then off until the 2nd of January. Christmas will be spent down my sister's noisy house with 5 nieces and nephews running riot. Is there any other way? :D
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby K » 14 Dec 2017, 13:44

By pure chance it coincides wit my celebration of the Norse festival of Yuletide and the Roman festival of Saturnalia, so I will do the things associated with those, such as eating a great feast, putting up a tree and giving gifts.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby toomanyhatz » 14 Dec 2017, 16:47

While Jesus's birthday is unknown, and is not mentioned in the bible, scholars have generally concluded that he was definitely NOT born on December 25th or anywhere near it.

some scholarly bible website wrote:According to Bible commentator Adam Clarke it was customary for the Jews to send their sheep to pasture from the spring until early October. As the cold winter months began, the flocks would return from the fields for shelter and warmth. Since the shepherds were still tending their flocks in the fields around Bethlehem it can be concluded that the angels announced the news of Jesus’ birth no later than October.


Modern-day Christmas celebrations, no matter what the fundies tell you, has a whole lot more in common with the pagan celebration of the Winter Solstice, than anything having anything to do with Jesus (though Jesus has most of the good songs). So I'm with K on this one.

My best guess is Jesus was conceived later in the year and born in late summer or early fall (and I don't buy that virgin nonsense either, just for the record).
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 14 Dec 2017, 16:51

I'm going to buy him a tequila and wait to see if he shows up for it.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 14 Dec 2017, 16:52

Harvey K-Tel wrote:I'm going to buy him a tequila and wait to see if he shows up for it.



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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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toomanyhatz wrote:While Jesus's birthday is unknown, and is not mentioned in the bible, scholars have generally concluded that he was definitely NOT born on December 25th or anywhere near it.

some scholarly bible website wrote:According to Bible commentator Adam Clarke it was customary for the Jews to send their sheep to pasture from the spring until early October. As the cold winter months began, the flocks would return from the fields for shelter and warmth. Since the shepherds were still tending their flocks in the fields around Bethlehem it can be concluded that the angels announced the news of Jesus’ birth no later than October.


Modern-day Christmas celebrations, no matter what the fundies tell you, has a whole lot more in common with the pagan celebration of the Winter Solstice, than anything having anything to do with Jesus (though Jesus has most of the good songs). So I'm with K on this one.

My best guess is Jesus was conceived later in the year and born in late summer or early fall (and I don't buy that virgin nonsense either, just for the record).



:roll:
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby K » 14 Dec 2017, 17:25

It means "imagined"
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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Harvey K-Tel wrote:I'm going to buy him a tequila and wait to see if he shows up for it.



Didn't know you were Jewish.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 14 Dec 2017, 18:04

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Harvey K-Tel wrote:I'm going to buy him a tequila and wait to see if he shows up for it.



Didn't know you were Jewish.


I'm not. I am incredibly patient, though.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby toomanyhatz » 14 Dec 2017, 18:33

The Great Defector wrote: :roll:


So giving a literal, serious, considered response earns an eye-roll? I guess I'll take note of that. :roll:

Oh, sorry - so was I supposed to tell you my plans for Jesus's birthday?

I don't have any.

For Christmas, though, I'm getting together with my family and probably having seafood, and maybe tamales (if my Mexican sister-in-law brings them, which I hope she will).
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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Double post.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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toomanyhatz wrote: I'm getting together with my family and probably having seafood, and maybe tamales (if my Mexican sister-in-law brings them, which I hope she will).



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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Thang-y » 15 Dec 2017, 08:17

Presents will be coo-ed over, Rayge is going to cook another bang up Christmas dinner, intoxicants will be enjoyed, a two-human dog walk (including the ever-popular 'fetch the ball' game on the Millennium Green) will be enjoyed by a certain canine (shhh, don't tell him he's a canine) followed very probably by sprawling over the furniture with vague "I'll never do it again" thoughts concerning eating too much.

The day after, we're going to dinner at No. 1 Son's place where we will exclaim how tall the boys are, exchange presents (they're getting 3 guitars, vintage vinyl, lego vouchers and some silver and light blue gem jewellery) and eat too much of a second but Nordic-style Christmas dinner thanks to Finnish No. 1 Daughter-in-law.

And possibly even some telly.*




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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby bobzilla77 » 15 Dec 2017, 19:07

The "Jesus" part of Xmas is the least interesting part of it and I'm not a worshipper. However I do understand the wisdom of the ancient Romans needing to maintain our paganistic Winter Festival and re-branding it as "Jesus' Birthday."

The fact is, winter is tough and it'll kill ya if you're not ready for it. And even if it doesn't kill ya, it's no fun walking out to your car at night and finding the locks are frozen solid, so you have to pee in the lock to defrost it, and it's fucking freezing the whole time.

So it's a good time of year to have a day of forced fun. The expectation is, you are going to have a day off work, spent with family and loved ones, and you're gonna make something nice to eat and be nice to each other, maybe more than usual. The kids will be super excited. There are all these little games and fun things to do, some of which are corny and lame, some of which are really cool, sometimes those are the same things experienced at different times in life. There's special music you don't listen to the rest of the year, that is engineered to make you feel warm and happy.

I believe this tradition is necessary for our species' survival and I do my part to make it festive every single year.

One thing I like to do is take Black Sabbath songs and sing the lyrics to Xmas songs over them, or write my own Xmas lyrics to them. There's a certain humor aspect to it of course, but I don't think its out of character. Sabbath lyrics are not evil and full of hate... they are peace sign-waving anti-war hippies, asking people to reject greed and selfishness and show the world that love is still alive. THAT'S WHAT SANTA CLAUS SAYS!

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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby WG Kaspar » 15 Dec 2017, 19:15

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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Thang-y » 15 Dec 2017, 19:28

WG Kaspar wrote:I'm going to church and debating whether to volunteer at a homeless shelter


Good for you Kaspar :)

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Postby Harvey K-Tel » 15 Dec 2017, 19:37

WG Kaspar wrote:I'm going to church and debating whether to volunteer at a homeless shelter


Will you be debating with the priest?
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

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bobzilla77 wrote:The "Jesus" part of Xmas is the least interesting part of it and I'm not a worshipper. However I do understand the wisdom of the ancient Romans needing to maintain our paganistic Winter Festival and re-branding it as "Jesus' Birthday."

The fact is, winter is tough and it'll kill ya if you're not ready for it. And even if it doesn't kill ya, it's no fun walking out to your car at night and finding the locks are frozen solid, so you have to pee in the lock to defrost it, and it's fucking freezing the whole time.

So it's a good time of year to have a day of forced fun. The expectation is, you are going to have a day off work, spent with family and loved ones, and you're gonna make something nice to eat and be nice to each other, maybe more than usual. The kids will be super excited. There are all these little games and fun things to do, some of which are corny and lame, some of which are really cool, sometimes those are the same things experienced at different times in life. There's special music you don't listen to the rest of the year, that is engineered to make you feel warm and happy.

I believe this tradition is necessary for our species' survival and I do my part to make it festive every single year.
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One thing I like to do is take Black Sabbath songs and sing the lyrics to Xmas songs over them, or write my own Xmas lyrics to them. There's a certain humor aspect to it of course, but I don't think its out of character. Sabbath lyrics are not evil and full of hate... they are peace sign-waving anti-war hippies, asking people to reject greed and selfishness and show the world that love is still alive. THAT'S WHAT SANTA CLAUS SAYS!




Hey man, I'm just keeping light asking what people are doing Xmas day if anything.
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 16 Dec 2017, 00:12

bobzilla77 wrote:The "Jesus" part of Xmas is the least interesting part of it and I'm not a worshipper. However I do understand the wisdom of the ancient Romans needing to maintain our paganistic Winter Festival and re-branding it as "Jesus' Birthday."

The fact is, winter is tough and it'll kill ya if you're not ready for it. And even if it doesn't kill ya, it's no fun walking out to your car at night and finding the locks are frozen solid, so you have to pee in the lock to defrost it, and it's fucking freezing the whole time.

So it's a good time of year to have a day of forced fun. The expectation is, you are going to have a day off work, spent with family and loved ones, and you're gonna make something nice to eat and be nice to each other, maybe more than usual. The kids will be super excited. There are all these little games and fun things to do, some of which are corny and lame, some of which are really cool, sometimes those are the same things experienced at different times in life. There's special music you don't listen to the rest of the year, that is engineered to make you feel warm and happy.

I believe this tradition is necessary for our species' survival and I do my part to make it festive every single year.

One thing I like to do is take Black Sabbath songs and sing the lyrics to Xmas songs over them, or write my own Xmas lyrics to them. There's a certain humor aspect to it of course, but I don't think its out of character. Sabbath lyrics are not evil and full of hate... they are peace sign-waving anti-war hippies, asking people to reject greed and selfishness and show the world that love is still alive. THAT'S WHAT SANTA CLAUS SAYS!



This post made me smile. Cheers Bob!
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Re: Plans For Jesus's Birthday?

Postby toomanyhatz » 16 Dec 2017, 00:40

The Great Defector wrote:Hey man, I'm just keeping light asking what people are doing Xmas day if anything.


You had to ruin Christmas by bringing Jesus into it, didn't you? :D
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