Anthropomorphism of animals

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Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Minnie the Minx » 03 Dec 2017, 22:56

Do you do it?
Is it a good or a bad thing?
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby toomanyhatz » 03 Dec 2017, 23:45

Yes!

Well, I find it amusing. And as long as Roscoe doesn't mind (he told me he didn't while we were sitting together drinking a glass of wine and watching TV) then I figure no harm done.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby PresMuffley » 03 Dec 2017, 23:50

No, I don't think I do... pretty sure I don't, and if so, very rarely and minorly.

Whether or not it's a bad thing isn't really for me to say. I wouldn't try to get my dog to be my chauffeur, and an all-kitten cast of The Threepenny Opera doesn't appeal to me, but if that's your thing, by all means, enjoy.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Flower » 04 Dec 2017, 00:22

YES!

It's just what it is ... Scout is really good at predicting hockey and baseball scores. She's not that great at football scores but is a New Orleans Saints and New York Jets fan.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby take5_d_shorterer » 04 Dec 2017, 00:26

Not only animals.

Mr. TOBIN: This is shortly after Ernie had arrived in North Africa, which is really his first involvement in the American part of the war, late 1942, early 1943. And Ernie had covered aviation before, so he was comfortable with pilots and flyers and flight mechanics. And so one of the first things that he does is go with an Air Corps outfit and hang out at this airfield in Algeria. And so he's describing this scene, and I'll read just a little scene-setter and then jump to some words of his.
(Reading) 'It was late afternoon at our desert airdrome. The sun was lazy, the air was warm and a faint haze of propeller dust hung over the field, giving it softness. We had already seen death that afternoon, for one of the returning Fortresses had released a red flare over the field. And I had stood with others beneath the great plane as they handed its dead pilot, head downward, through the escape hatch onto a stretcher. The faces of his crew were grave, and nobody talked very much. One man clutched a leather cap with blood on it; the pilot's hands were very white. Everybody knew the pilot. He was so young a couple of hours ago. The war came inside us then, and we felt it deeply.'

Then Ernie describes a group of Flying Fortresses that had been out on a mission and were coming back. Most of them had made it back to the field, but one was still missing. And they wait, really, for several hours, then they give up the plane for lost. And then all of a sudden, there's a flare seen on the horizon and they realize that it's that last Fortress coming back to the field, but very slowly.

He says (Reading), 'It seemed almost on the ground it was so low, and in the first glance, we could sense that it was barely moving, barely staying in the air; crippled and alone, two hours behind all the rest. It was dragging itself home. I am a layman and no longer of the fraternity that flies, but I can feel. And at that moment, I felt something close to human love for that faithful, battered machine, that far, dark speck struggling toward us with such pathetic slowness. Thousands of men around that vast field suddenly realized that they were weak and that they could hear their hearts pounding. Our 10 dead men were miraculously back from the grave.'


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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby sloopjohnc » 04 Dec 2017, 00:55

Sure. It's kinda natural - everybody works from their own frame of reference for almost any judgement.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby PENK » 04 Dec 2017, 05:31

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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Vic Snazell-Sprey » 04 Dec 2017, 10:16

I do it with animals but I draw the line at Tory MPs.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Minnie the Minx » 23 Dec 2017, 19:07

I've done it as long as I can remember. Cats have always had opinions on what they've done when they've been outside, spiders disappear because they are off to the pub, beetles in the garage are having a band practice. It's a massive amount of fun to me and I think it's an intentional step to bring me closer to them because I really, genuinely want to think I can get into the mind of a caterpillar or whatever. It's fraught with difficulty as it makes saying goodbye to beloved companion animals so hard, yet having that relationship with them while they are alive contributes enormously to my enjoyment of having them in my life.

Never do I think about this situation more than when we are round at our friend's house, as we were last night. They have a couple of acres backing onto a creek and they have encouraged the wild animals to come and feed by providing it for them. Raccoons, deer, rabbits, ringtail cats, coyotes, owls, all kinds of birds, skunks, foxes, possums visit the garden every night. The raccoons have become completely tame and come and sit up on our laps and eat out of our hands. They tap on the windows standing on their hind legs for food and steal anything that's not nailed down, taking shoes and cutlery under the deck. They will stick their fingers up through the wooden slats on the deck and pull food down underneath. They've all got names,personalities, character traits - all of this is filmed constantly on about fifty cameras they have in the yard. Our friends have gathered a phenomenal amount of footage of animals behaving in ways you would never normally see and it is unbelievable watching. They have cameras in the owl boxes and when squirrels and ringtail cats move into those boxes and fall asleep, it's the most incredible thing you'll ever see.
Last night we watched film of two squirrels waking up in their nest. Just their little heads poking up through the straw. They wake, up, YAWN AND STRETCH, then chase each other round the box for five minutes then engage in this little dance which ends in them clasping each other's head in their paws and having what looks like a long, lingering kiss. One squirrel then leaps out and the other lies back, legs akimbo and scratches it's balls. Just superb. And all the animals they have do this - they lead lives you would never see, sometimes playing with animals from other species - foxes and raccoons hopping from tree stump to tree stump and foxes running up trees then jumping off backwards, like some kind of fox parkour. Raccoon mums gather up six babies in her arms and sits with her back to the wall while they all nurse from her. Some of the stuff I've seen is astonishing.

Inevitably, because they have encouraged animals to come, predators know that they have basically got a drive through diner. Coyotes picking off the smaller animals get caught on camera. It's really distressing - but it's how it should go down, of course.

I've never understood people who have a family pet, and when it dies it's like having a chair go missing or something that disappears without comment. I don't understand how people can get pleasure from an animal if they don't talk to it. You might as well get a plant.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby yomptepi » 23 Dec 2017, 19:17

When I am at home, my cats are my constant companions, and I talk to them all the time. We have conversations, and there are little narratives which take place over a number of days. All in my mind of course, but it keeps me amused. Why have pets if we are not going at least try and interact with them on a human level?
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Goat Boy » 23 Dec 2017, 19:27

The lass and I play this game we call "what's Grady doing?" and we'll lie there in bed on a sunday morning and say shit like, "Grady's playing marbles in the street" or "Grady's running an illegal gambling ring" or "Grady's ironing his best shirt", that sorta thing. I should add, for context like, that Grady is the laziest cat I've ever known so Grady doing anything is innately funny to us.

I don't really understand how anybody doesn't do that sorta shit with their pets. It brings me great joy and amusement.

I talk to them constantly.

Sure when they die it hurts like all hell but I wouldn't do anything differently. That's the price you pay. Despite the pain it still feels like a bargain.
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Harvey K-Tel » 24 Dec 2017, 03:47

I don't suppose these friends of yours have a YouTube channel, do they Min?
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Minnie the Minx » 24 Dec 2017, 04:15

Harvey K-Tel wrote:I don't suppose these friends of yours have a YouTube channel, do they Min?


Gosh I dunno - but they are building a website. I'll send you some of the pics and clips I've got
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Postby Harvey K-Tel » 24 Dec 2017, 04:20

Thanks!
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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Toby » 24 Dec 2017, 11:32

Both my wife and I give Herzog a slightly raised and SE London girls voice. She's a tortoiseshell so given to random acts of violence interspersed with little licks. So when she wants to go outside, I'll say something like "open the door you cunts" in that voice.

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Re: Anthropomorphism of animals

Postby Moleskin » 24 Dec 2017, 16:39

We're not allowed to. Starr resents it as an insult to his dignity.
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