Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

Keep the monarchy?

Yes - they are personally important to me and must stay.
6
15%
No - they are irrelevant to me and serve no purpose. Give it a year and they won't be missed.
26
65%
Couldn't give a stuff either way.
8
20%
 
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Moleskin » 03 Dec 2017, 18:07

Goat Boy wrote:What's the most effective way to change public opinion then?



By not talking about a subject. Keeping quiet. Going along with what our betters have decided.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Dec 2017, 18:09

You'd think so, wouldn;t you?

Just let the Monarchy carry on without their role even being questioned or quantified, let alone challenged.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby CAN » 03 Dec 2017, 18:51

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
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Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 03 Dec 2017, 18:59

Moleskin wrote:By not talking about a subject. Keeping quiet. Going along with what our betters have decided.


Straight out of the Black Panthers handbook, that.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 03 Dec 2017, 19:03

The Unfragrant Ox wrote:
I was reading through the thread thinking how great it was that no-one had trotted out the same naive, adolescent viewpoints.....


:? :roll:

Have a long hard look in the mirror will you, Coan.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 03 Dec 2017, 19:23

Goat Boy wrote:What's the most effective way to change public opinion then?

Cat memes.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby CAN » 03 Dec 2017, 19:26

:)

Quite probably.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Thang-y » 03 Dec 2017, 19:31

Awwww, it's a keetan!

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Dec 2017, 19:32

The Unfragrant Ox wrote:GOD SAVE THE QUEEN



We mean it, maaaannnnnn
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Dec 2017, 19:36

So nearly a week on, as far as I can see, the only viable reason for keeping the Monarchy is because the option may be worse. Nothing else apparently.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Toby » 03 Dec 2017, 19:58

You are like a repeating klaxon.

Unintended consequences are what history is made of. Only in the reign of rulers such as Augustus has history been driven in the manner that they wanted. There are too many forces at play to say that for certain the path set on will arrive at the destination you intend.

You only have to look at what is happening right now to see this.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Dec 2017, 20:02

Toby wrote:Unintended consequences are what history is made of. Only in the reign of rulers such as Augustus has history been driven in the manner that they wanted. .



I told you he'd invoke Augustus!

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The Modernist wrote:But your examples aren't from modern democracies. I don't think you can use something from 18th or 19th centuries as being particularly relevant to what is likely to happen today.



I'm surprised he hasn't given Augustus' overthrow of the Atrebates as justification for Ms Markle's future marriage into the Royal Family, quite frankly.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Thang-y » 03 Dec 2017, 20:05

Toby wrote:Only in the reign of rulers such as Augustus ...


Gawd bless 'im.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Copehead » 03 Dec 2017, 20:07

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I would
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Thang-y » 03 Dec 2017, 20:11

Copehead wrote:
Samoan wrote:I wouldn't want their life.



I would


"Off with their heads"-stylee or 'Butter my toast soldiers individually after you cut the bread, you nincompoop'-style?

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 03 Dec 2017, 20:23

Toby wrote:You are like a repeating klaxon.

Unintended consequences are what history is made of. Only in the reign of rulers such as Augustus has history been driven in the manner that they wanted. There are too many forces at play to say that for certain the path set on will arrive at the destination you intend.

You only have to look at what is happening right now to see this.


For a lad that reads a lot of books, you have a pretty poor understanding of what's actually going on, I'll give you that.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Toby » 03 Dec 2017, 20:26

So what is actually going on then?

I will await your objective overview of the current situation.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 03 Dec 2017, 20:28

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Goat Boy » 03 Dec 2017, 20:29

:lol:
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Toby » 03 Dec 2017, 20:32

German Dave wrote:
Toby wrote:You are like a repeating klaxon.

Unintended consequences are what history is made of. Only in the reign of rulers such as Augustus has history been driven in the manner that they wanted. There are too many forces at play to say that for certain the path set on will arrive at the destination you intend.

You only have to look at what is happening right now to see this.


For a lad that reads a lot of books, you have such a pretty poor understanding of what's actually going on, I'll give you that.


And you as a 50 year old bloke can do a lot better than simply regurgitating rather tired Marxist dialectic.