It's a mental health problem, not a gun problem

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It's a mental health problem, not a gun problem

Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Nov 2017, 16:49

Or so says our President and reminds us it's too soon to politicize it (right after he politicized a guy who ran down people in NYC).

Every time after one of these mass killings with guns, the satirical Onion posts the same headline. . .

"No Way to Prevent This, says Only Nation Where this Happens Regularly"
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Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Nov 2017, 16:57

Someone on Twitter posted, "We have to ban all white men entering the UK from the USA until we can find out what the problem is."
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Postby Harvey K-Tel » 06 Nov 2017, 17:13

Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?

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Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Nov 2017, 17:34

Harvey K-Tel wrote:Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?



Those three barely have a functional brain between them.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 06 Nov 2017, 17:51

Is it possible that it's a mental health problem AND a gun problem?
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Postby sloopjohnc » 06 Nov 2017, 18:01

toomanyhatz wrote:Is it possible that it's a mental health problem AND a gun problem?


They're calling the neighbor who shot the gunman a good samaritan. The deed had been done and I don't know if having someone not in law enforcement did a whole lotta good. Law enforcement was on its way and another citizen with a firearm might have proved confusing and he or she might have gotten shot too.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 06 Nov 2017, 18:29

Yeah, the old "good guy with a gun" scenario. Bullshit, of course - didn't the guy shoot himself?

Not that I trust the gun lobby as far as I can throw them (which isn't far considering how weighted down they are with ammunition), but when they say opiod dependence seems to be a common thread with a lot of these people, they are right about that. Doesn't make 'em right about anything else, but we shouldn't dismiss that fact out of hand just because of who it comes from.
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Postby bobzilla77 » 06 Nov 2017, 18:56

It is a mental health probem, we have collectively lost our fucking minds.
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Postby jimboo » 06 Nov 2017, 20:54

Harvey K-Tel wrote:Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?



Oh boy.
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Harvey K-Tel wrote:Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?



Please save the me trouble of clicking that video, but was that actually said/implied?

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Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Nov 2017, 06:01

joels344 wrote:
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?



Please save the me trouble of clicking that video, but was that actually said/implied?


Yes, near the beginning. Good ol' Ainsley will never let you down when it comes to stupidity.
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Postby Geezee » 07 Nov 2017, 07:28

jimboo wrote:
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Fox News:

If you're gonna get shot, wouldn't you rather get shot in church?



Oh boy.


Yeah, speaking of mental health problems.
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Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 07 Nov 2017, 11:09

toomanyhatz wrote:Is it possible that it's a mental health problem AND a gun problem?


...is my first thought too.

This is a good, general article. It is by Henry A. Giroux, a serious educator. He is highly respected, and is called the father of critical pedagogy. IIRC he works in the tradition of Paolo Freire.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/4245 ... -las-vegas

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Postby Still Baron » 07 Nov 2017, 14:04

sloopjohnc wrote:Or so says our President


Perhaps he’ll stump for serious funding as soon as he’s done the same for the apparent opioid crisis.
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Postby Tactful Cactus » 07 Nov 2017, 18:02

He also said its a good thing someone else had a gun or it could have been worse. I think your best chance is that mass shootings become so benign and predictable that shooters stop doing them out of sheer boredom. Maybe in a few more weeks.

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Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 07 Nov 2017, 18:44

Tactful Cactus wrote:He also said its a good thing someone else had a gun or it could have been worse. I think your best chance is that mass shootings become so benign and predictable that shooters stop doing them out of sheer boredom. Maybe in a few more weeks.


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I had to laugh. Because amidst all the tragedies, it is funny.
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Postby never/ever » 07 Nov 2017, 19:56

Perhaps the OK Corral should be rebooted as a possible venue for mass shooter syndrome sufferers.
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Postby pcqgod » 07 Nov 2017, 20:22

I was watching CNN Headline news yesterday and they interviewed a man whose daughter had been shot dead on live television for his perspective. He called Texas governor Ken Paxton "a complete moron" for suggesting that the solution was for more people to arm themselves when they went to church.
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Postby Samoan » 20 Nov 2017, 08:58

A piece about the sign outside this Florida church was on the TV news this morning. It emerged after a senior pastor published the photo on his Instagram account. They say the sign is not new, it's been up for over a year so it seems it's not a reaction to the Texas church massacre.

The associate pastor said church leaders are fulfilling a biblical teaching to look after those in their care.

"I believe, if you look at the teachings of Jesus, Matthew, and different places in the scriptures, we see it will get increasingly darker, wars, rumors of wars, and people with not good intentions are going to look for a way to make a statement,” he told FOX 13.


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