100 years since the Russian Revolution

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Was the Russian Revolution a "good" thing?

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Nov 2017, 14:11

The man is a total cunt
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 06 Nov 2017, 14:11

There is one school of thought that says Russia is doomed whatever it does. It's a cursed nation - partly because of its sheer size. And any problems were compounded by central planning, which was a feature of the Communist era.

I can't pretend I've read widely on Russia (Imperium is a great book, btw) but I know it's rich in natural resources. But of course almost nobody benefits from that.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 06 Nov 2017, 14:12

Goat Boy wrote:The man is a total cunt


Yeah, I can't watch it because I despise that man more than anyone else walking this earth.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Nov 2017, 14:17

Who voted yes and why?
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

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Carla Breakthrough-Lark wrote:There is one school of thought that says Russia is doomed whatever it does. It's a cursed nation - partly because of its sheer size. And any problems were compounded by central planning, which was a feature of the Communist era.

I can't pretend I've read widely on Russia (Imperium is a great book, btw) but I know it's rich in natural resources. But of course almost nobody benefits from that.


Oh for sure. It has a terrific existential crisis of identity that surrounds it. A macho culture that sits defiantly outside of both Europe and Asia but dominates both like a pugnacious and alcoholic uncle at family gatherings.

The only good things I can think of were Tarkovsky and Shostakovich. The Soviet Union did defeat Nazi Germany, but their intentions to do so were not couched in the moral spirt of the Allies, given that they occupied Eastern Europe for 40 years afterwards. The Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact of 1939 tells you everything you need to know about Soviet intentions during that conflict. Stalin didn't give a fuck about anyone.

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Toby » 06 Nov 2017, 14:18

Goat Boy wrote:Who voted yes and why?


Who's the secret communist?

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Nov 2017, 14:19

I dunno!

I'd just be interested to read their reasons
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby fange » 06 Nov 2017, 14:20

Toby wrote:Who's the secret communist?


Count Machukin.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

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Surely Comrade Moleskin.

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

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The Modernist wrote:Surely Comrade Moleskin.

Too obvious.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Nov 2017, 14:32

There's two more pinkos :x
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Moleskin » 06 Nov 2017, 14:34

The Modernist wrote:Surely Comrade Moleskin.


I am a socialist and not a supporter of state capitalism as practiced by the USSR.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

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Moleskin wrote:
The Modernist wrote:Surely Comrade Moleskin.


I am a socialist and not a supporter of state capitalism as practiced by the USSR.


Dangerous and subversive talk. Off to the Cornish tin mines with you!

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Goat Boy » 06 Nov 2017, 14:51

And take Griff with you!
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

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How long do you want? :lol:



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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby bobzilla77 » 06 Nov 2017, 19:06

It was quite interesting spending time in Latvia and thinking about the screwed up history of my homeland - a football to be fought over between the Germans and the Russians for thousands of years. They're trying to find their way as an independent nation and sometimes it's a struggle.

Having spent some time visiting both the Cheka (localized KGB) museum and talking to my aunt's boyfriend, who had been sent to Siberia as a young man, I came away with a fairly strong impression of Russians involved in keeping the government affairs running smoothly. I don't care for them. My opinion of Nazis involved in government affairs was not any more positive.

I am glad to see my familial homeland in the struggle that is independence, and not asking the Russians to come back and take over again. I think of that period, when the Soviet Union was in charge, as the end of a long national nightmare.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Diamond Dog » 06 Nov 2017, 19:21

Toby wrote: The Soviet Union did defeat Nazi Germany, but their intentions to do so were not couched in the moral spirt of the Allies, given that they occupied Eastern Europe for 40 years afterwards.



Of course, that they may have decided to build a buffer between themselves and all the other European countries that had seemingly taken it in turns to invade Russia in previous times was, of course, completely unfair and really wasn't playing the game, old chap.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Rayge » 06 Nov 2017, 19:49

Goat Boy wrote:Who voted yes and why?

Me.
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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Rayge » 06 Nov 2017, 19:51

Carla Breakthrough-Lark wrote: But of course almost nobody benefits from that.

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Re: 100 years since the Russian Revolution

Postby Toby » 06 Nov 2017, 20:18

Diamond Dog wrote:
Toby wrote: The Soviet Union did defeat Nazi Germany, but their intentions to do so were not couched in the moral spirt of the Allies, given that they occupied Eastern Europe for 40 years afterwards.



Of course, that they may have decided to build a buffer between themselves and all the other European countries that had seemingly taken it in turns to invade Russia in previous times was, of course, completely unfair and really wasn't playing the game, old chap.


Absolute rot and you know it. It was imperialism continued in socialist drag.