Louis CK, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey...

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Postby Jimbo » 09 Aug 2019, 12:11

And now Jeffrey Epstein.

Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein: How Are They Connected?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/nyre ... stein.html

I like how Clinton says he'd flown on Epstein's plane only four times but I'd heard he'd flown many more times than that.

According to NYT
Flight records published by Gawker in 2015 suggested that Mr. Clinton took at least a dozen separate flights on Mr. Epstein’s plane. A year later, Fox News reported that flight records showed President Clinton had flown at least 26 times on Mr. Epstein’s plane.


I'd love to see Clinton - or any D.C. big wig busted.
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Postby Jeemo » 09 Aug 2019, 13:09

I'll settle for the guilty getting their comeuppance.
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Postby Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman » 09 Aug 2019, 18:12

On the whole, I'd rather be in Wallenpaupack.

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Postby Sneelock » 09 Aug 2019, 18:28

Clinton's peener has been a problem for him. DT's has not been a problem for him.
when Clinton wrote a dumb book, he went on TV to promote it and was asked more frequently than he would have liked about his peener problem.DT is President and never asked about his peener.

yeah, Bubba and DT probably partied with Epstein. I think this is NOT "Clinton did it too" but "Clinton did it EDIT"
Donald TRUMP's penis does not get him in trouble. he has the distinction of bragging about his penis on TELEVISION before being elected. IMO this is not "what's good for Donald is good for Bill". it's "let's bring up Bill to take attention away from Donald."
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Postby Sneelock » 09 Aug 2019, 18:39

Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman wrote:https://www.truthdig.com/articles/scum-vs-scum/



I've got a lot of respect for Chris Hedges but I don't agree with a lot of what he's writing these days. it doesn't matter - plenty of people are.
First, the part I agree with. People hate politics and this is why. I don't see how any clear eyed person can deny that scum bags of all persuasions rise to the top in both parties.

the part I don't agree with is really my own baggage. I think in this and other things he writes lately, he endorses this revulsion with politics. I don't. I'm tired of "both sides are bad" arguments being the best I can hope for in what passes for op/ed nowadays.

I have people telling me that White Nationalism is a hoax - it doesn't exist. there are politicians trying to legislate classifying people who punch people at "free speech rallies" as terrorists. there is no appetite for policing the incendiary rhetoric and violent results of these rallies EXCEPT to label anybody who speaks up against them as TERRORISTS.

this might not scare the goddam bejezus out of Chris Hedges but it scares the hell out of me. Yeah, Scum VS Scum sounds like something to make the young people yawn. How does BROWN SHIRTS sound? Did you know people yell at me when I get a slice of pizza wearing my brown shirt? it hurts my feelings. there oughta be a law.

TRUMP got his thumbs up picture with that baby with dead parents. what does that picture say to people in other countries? IMO we are well beyond Scum VS Scum. this shit is getting really scary. I'll vote for the lesser Scum. no problem. you either see a lesser scum or you don't. I motherfuckin' do.
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Postby Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman » 09 Aug 2019, 19:12

Sneelock wrote:
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Postman wrote:https://www.truthdig.com/articles/scum-vs-scum/



I've got a lot of respect for Chris Hedges but I don't agree with a lot of what he's writing these days. it doesn't matter - plenty of people are.
First, the part I agree with. People hate politics and this is why. I don't see how any clear eyed person can deny that scum bags of all persuasions rise to the top in both parties.

the part I don't agree with is really my own baggage. I think in this and other things he writes lately, he endorses this revulsion with politics. I don't. I'm tired of "both sides are bad" arguments being the best I can hope for in what passes for op/ed nowadays.

I have people telling me that White Nationalism is a hoax - it doesn't exist. there are politicians trying to classify people who punch people at "free speech rallies" as terrorists. there is no appetite for policing the incendiary rhetoric and violent results of these rallies EXCEPT to label anybody who speaks up against them as TERRORISTS.

this might not scare the goddam bejezus out of Chris Hedges but it scares the hell out of me. Yeah, Scum VS Scum sounds like something to make the young people yawn. How does BROWN SHIRTS sound? Did you know people yell at me when I get a slice of pizza wearing my brown shirt? it hurts my feelings. there oughta be a law.

TRUMP got his thumbs up picture with that baby with dead parents. what does that picture say to people in other countries? IMO we are well beyond Scum VS Scum. this shit is getting really scary. I'll vote for the lesser Scum. no problem. you either see a lesser scum or you don't. I motherfuckin' do.


Thank you for your reply. I must say although I don't agree with all of it, I still see valid points that I hadn't yet thought of when I posted the link to Chris Hedges' article. "Lesser scum", though so brief (and rather blunt), hits it on the proverbial head, when one thinks about the type of choice so many voters everywhere have to face during most elections.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 09 Aug 2019, 20:54

Hedges is utterly full of shit. It's Jimbo politics. They both KNEW Epstein, therefore they must have had the same relationship with him? Bullpukey.

Trump's actions are fully in keeping with the reprehensibility of Epstein. You can accuse Clinton of paying "lip service" if you want, or being a hypocrite, but Trump has made it VERY clear he does not represent the entire country, only his supporters.

I'm not interested in a tug-of-war. I'm interested in some acknowledgement that THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS are being told that their opinions or desires don't count because you can't be a moderate in this climate. Fuck that, now and forever.

The 70% have keep repeating over and over and over - this is not normal. You don't have to be perfect, just put an end to this madness and then we'll discuss it.

That is what the MAJORITY of the country wants. I'm not interested in lecturing people that they're not progressive enough. I'm interested in communicating that most people think THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!
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Postby toomanyhatz » 09 Aug 2019, 21:00

Show me the photo of Bill looking lustily at his own daughter, or play me the tape of him bragging about how he can grab wherever and whenever he wants and we'll talk. Until then it's a false dichotomy, no matter how many times Bill rode on the plane.
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Chris Hedges has a show on RT. Nuff said.

One one hand Trump's sexist and boorish behavior is a given. For some reason, despite Monica and all that jazz that supposedly went on before Bill became prez, Bill is still in my mind the Boy Scout shaking JFK's hand. I don't know for sure what he did on Epstein's plane. He'd say he was just flying in a friend's plane from point A to point B.

On the other hand maybe Bill was banging a 16 year old. It'd be more likely on Epstein's "Lolita Express" than on Delta. And there is the documented evidence of huge fraud in the Clinton Foundation, hell in ALL these foundations. What is supposed to be charity winds up in the pockets of people like Bill Clinton.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 09 Aug 2019, 21:33

Jimbo wrote: maybe Bill was banging a 16 year old.


So you tell me. What evidence have you seen (other than riding in the plane) that it's possible? And then the same question for Trump.

Again, false equivalency.

And there is the documented evidence of huge fraud in the Clinton Foundation, hell in ALL these foundations. What is supposed to be charity winds up in the pockets of people like Bill Clinton.


Show me this documented evidence. I've seen a lot of supposition that there MUST be - I mean, after all, he was pictured with Trump, and they were LAUGHING!! LAUGHING, I TELL YOU!! That proves they're BASICALLY THE SAME PERSON!!

I hear there's a pizza place in Washington that...

Seriously, you occasionally need to turn off the spigot.
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Postby Sneelock » 09 Aug 2019, 21:47

It’s getting worse,man. Those “Q Anon” people are getting as easy to spot at TRUMP rallies as “ lock her up” t-shirts. Those people think Democrats drink the blood of children. Seriously. There is no equivalent on the left. One side is allowed to go stark raving nutso. The other side gets chided for using divisive teams like “racist” & “concentration camp”
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Postby Jimbo » 09 Aug 2019, 22:06

toomanyhatz wrote:
Show me this documented evidence.



I hear Charles Ortel speak and read some of what he's written (It's dense) and come away convinced that the Foundation is a fraud.

http://charlesortel.com/

Maybe you can find a good debunk of Ortel but I looked and I can't. There is a Truthdig tidbit which leads to this short article which sums up Ortel's shtick with this line:
The charges being made by Ortel are difficult to dismiss as a flight of fancy...
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http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/05/a ... -clintons/
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Postby Sneelock » 09 Aug 2019, 22:52

Rich people move their money around so they look benevolent while actually enriching themselves and their associates.
Check.

If I see TRUMP wearing a necklace made from the bones of his enemies eating with his elbows on the table, I’ll know not to make a big deal of it.
The Clintons who roam the earth saddled with scandal & shame are every bit as bad.
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Postby Sneelock » 09 Aug 2019, 23:18

you know what I think? I think the Clintons have been the Big, Bad Booger Man to so many for so long that they just can't process the information of the size & scope of Donald J. Trumps self interest & corruption.

Dr. Watson gets out his army pistol when he sees a guy robbing a liquor store. Sherlock Holmes protests! put that thing away, my good man. a robbery of this type MUST be the work of the Evil Dr. Moriarity come now, the game is afoot!
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All right, you're uncomfortable talking about the Clintons and potential sexual crimes, howzabout we shift to the church. Almost every week I listen to Harry Shere's Le Show where he does a segment "News of the Godly" which hits heavily on news of child abuse by priests. This week he talked about a group called Opus Bono, another "charity" which aids priests accused of and convicted for sexual abuse of kids.

DRYDEN, Mich. — The visiting priests arrived discreetly, day and night.

Stripped of their collars and cassocks, they went unnoticed in this tiny Midwestern town as they were escorted into a dingy warehouse across from an elementary school playground. Neighbors had no idea some of the dressed-down clergymen dining at local restaurants might have been accused sexual predators.

They had been brought to town by a small, nonprofit group called Opus Bono Sacerdotii. For nearly two decades, the group has operated out of a series of unmarked buildings in rural Michigan, providing money, shelter, transport, legal help and other support to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Catholic priests accused of sexual abuse across the country.

Again and again, Opus Bono has served as a rapid-response team for the accused...


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 855105001/
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Postby Still Baron » 10 Aug 2019, 14:15

JIMBO ALERT: Epstein reportedly commits suicide, notwithstanding an alleged failed suicide attempt several weeks ago. An astounding jail fail? Or did The Clintons make it so!?
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Postby Sneelock » 10 Aug 2019, 16:09

I give up. The Clintons did it.

The next time I’m helping a Mexican load his truck and somebody starts talking scary shit to us. I’ll save myself some time and damn the Clintons. The next time I’m eating out and discussing where we’ll go should an active shooter show up we’ll blame the Clintons.

All candidates are inferior to Tulsi. All TRUMP’s transgressions are eclipsed by the crimes of the Clintons. Should there be another psychotic manifesto that cuts & pastes the incendiary rhetoric of the sitting President I’ll know what a big fat hypocrite I am if I don’t first regard the crimes of the Clintons.

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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 10 Aug 2019, 16:41

It kind of makes Sneelock’s point from above that we’re discussing Clinton at all right now.

Here you’ve got a guy awaiting trial, presumably with considerable dirt on a sitting President - and that guy somehow manages to hang himself while on suicide watch. Nothing to see here.

I don’t have any inclination to get on the conspiracy train here. But if there WAS one, surely I’d suspect the guy with the actual power to have it done more than the guy who has been out of office for decades.
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Postby Still Baron » 10 Aug 2019, 17:37

Of course! Or maybe a very wealthy man was able to bribe some jail functionaries. Or maybe the jail just fucked up.

People believe what they want to believe.
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 10 Aug 2019, 17:46

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