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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby Tactful Cactus » 12 Nov 2017, 21:48

Not really Mod. Shipman et al were the exceptions. The Hollywood revelations are endemic. Its a rotten industry that needs to be reborn.

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:02

Yes.

It's more like the police force - certain types are attracted, altho' you can't say they're all like that.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby nev harp » 12 Nov 2017, 22:04

Similar to teaching in that regard.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby The Modernist » 12 Nov 2017, 22:10

Tactful Cactus wrote:Not really Mod. Shipman et al were the exceptions. The Hollywood revelations are endemic. Its a rotten industry that needs to be reborn.


Endemic? There have been two high profile cases and an obscure director I'd not heard of. For an industry that employs thousands, endemic isn't the word I'd use.

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:13

kewl klive wrote:Similar to teaching in that regard.


Fucking psychopaths, yeah
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:15

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Tactful Cactus wrote:Not really Mod. Shipman et al were the exceptions. The Hollywood revelations are endemic. Its a rotten industry that needs to be reborn.


Endemic? There have been two high profile cases and an obscure director I'd not heard of. For an industry that employs thousands, endemic isn't the word I'd use.


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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby Goat Boy » 12 Nov 2017, 22:16

I dunno about that. Considering the amount of actresses who have stated they have encountered similar behaviour it makes me think it's actually pretty common.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:17

Dustin Hoffmann and Richard Dreyfuss, recent suspects
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:17

Many tolerated it, of course
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby Goat Boy » 12 Nov 2017, 22:20

The nature of the business lends itself to abusive and exploitative behaviour of course. You can imagine what has happened in the past and what people managed to get away with.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

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Oh, there are so many tales. Most Hollywood biogs are full of this stuff
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:22

Björk recently talked about Lars Von Trier’s abusive behaviour towards her
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby Robert » 12 Nov 2017, 22:31

Goat Boy wrote:The nature of the business lends itself to abusive and exploitative behaviour of course. You can imagine what has happened in the past and what people managed to get away with.



why does the nature of the business lend itself for that?

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby The Modernist » 12 Nov 2017, 22:32

Dr. E. PLATE wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
Tactful Cactus wrote:Not really Mod. Shipman et al were the exceptions. The Hollywood revelations are endemic. Its a rotten industry that needs to be reborn.


Endemic? There have been two high profile cases and an obscure director I'd not heard of. For an industry that employs thousands, endemic isn't the word I'd use.


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Alfred Hitchcock
Woody Allen
Stanley Kubrick


Hold on - three of those people are dead. They haven't been convicted of anything!

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 12 Nov 2017, 22:34

Ah, G, come on. You know full well.

The industry is rife with amoral (at least) behaviour.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby The Modernist » 12 Nov 2017, 22:35

Dr. E. PLATE wrote:Oh, there are so many tales. Most Hollywood biogs are full of this stuff


I'm sure they are. Weirdly enough people don't write salacious books or gossip about plumbers or chartered accountants or ambulance drivers.

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby The Modernist » 12 Nov 2017, 22:37

Dr. E. PLATE wrote:Ah, G, come on. You know full well.

The industry is rife with amoral (at least) behaviour.


I'm not naïve John. At the same time I think it's dangerous to assume guilt because "that's what they're like".

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby OCT » 13 Nov 2017, 00:14

The Modernist wrote:
Dr. E. PLATE wrote:Oh, there are so many tales. Most Hollywood biogs are full of this stuff


I'm sure they are. Weirdly enough people don't write salacious books or gossip about plumbers or chartered accountants or ambulance drivers.


:?

I get the impression you think it's unfair we're criticising Hollywood for attracting narcissists and feeding their basest instincts.

Very odd.
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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

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Re: Kevin Spacey/Louis C.K.

Postby Robert » 13 Nov 2017, 08:52

Dr. E. PLATE wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
Dr. E. PLATE wrote:Oh, there are so many tales. Most Hollywood biogs are full of this stuff


I'm sure they are. Weirdly enough people don't write salacious books or gossip about plumbers or chartered accountants or ambulance drivers.


:?

I get the impression you think it's unfair we're criticising Hollywood for attracting narcissists and feeding their basest instincts.

Very odd.


I think we can rest assured that this whole thing is not restricted to Hollywood or the film industry. This just attracts more attention because we ' know' these people and feeds on the public's fixation with celebrities. I am sure this happens everywhere else too.