Harvey Weinstein in trouble

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 07 Oct 2017, 15:53

bee-eating feminist says you're late wrote:
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What does this mean?


That I perhaps did not write very clearly.

And that types of business that involve mass entertainment, mass profits, and that can offer instant fame to young and beautiful people, may easily attract people who lust after power, cash, sex, and drugs. Those people aren't really known for their empathy, modesty, and honesty.


On what basis do you say that people who lust after sex and drugs are not known for empathy, modesty and honesty?


You forgot the power and the cash. Deliberately?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Nit Picking Prick » 07 Oct 2017, 16:10

Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
bee-eating feminist says you're late wrote:
Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
That I perhaps did not write very clearly.

And that types of business that involve mass entertainment, mass profits, and that can offer instant fame to young and beautiful people, may easily attract people who lust after power, cash, sex, and drugs. Those people aren't really known for their empathy, modesty, and honesty.


On what basis do you say that people who lust after sex and drugs are not known for empathy, modesty and honesty?


You forgot the power and the cash. Deliberately?



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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Robert » 07 Oct 2017, 18:51

quix wrote:I think perhaps he means that industries based on selling images of fiction, fantasy, attract a certain type of dangerous person.


Sure that's what he means.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby quix » 07 Oct 2017, 19:21

Actually I was feeling a little bias earlier against the creative industries as I recalled my own experience. But actually, wherever there are people, mainly men, in positions of power or authority where the opportunity to exploit young or vulnerable people is possible, there is the potential for sexual abuse. It happens in schools, colleges, doctors’ surgeries, church or religious communities, hospitals, children’s homes, you name it. It’s not just the creative industries and it’s not just because of the prevalence of drugs or money. I suppose it’s what being in a position of power can do to some people.

The worst thing for the victims is living with the feeling of total shame. As though “you” are the one to blame for allowing it to happen. You never shake that off.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Oct 2017, 19:59

Goat Boy wrote::oops:


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quix wrote:Actually I was feeling a little bias earlier against the creative industries as I recalled my own experience. But actually, wherever there are people, mainly men, in positions of power or authority where the opportunity to exploit young or vulnerable people is possible, there is the potential for sexual abuse. It happens in schools, colleges, doctors’ surgeries, church or religious communities, hospitals, children’s homes, you name it. It’s not just the creative industries and it’s not just because of the prevalence of drugs or money. I suppose it’s what being in a position of power can do to some people.

The worst thing for the victims is living with the feeling of total shame. As though “you” are the one to blame for allowing it to happen. You never shake that off.


I used to work for a medical association. At our annual meeting/tradeshow, the game was to pick the second or third wife when a couple walked up to the booth faster than our co-workers. Like the license plate game on roadtrips.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Nit Picking Prick » 07 Oct 2017, 20:19

sloopjohnc wrote:
quix wrote:Actually I was feeling a little bias earlier against the creative industries as I recalled my own experience. But actually, wherever there are people, mainly men, in positions of power or authority where the opportunity to exploit young or vulnerable people is possible, there is the potential for sexual abuse. It happens in schools, colleges, doctors’ surgeries, church or religious communities, hospitals, children’s homes, you name it. It’s not just the creative industries and it’s not just because of the prevalence of drugs or money. I suppose it’s what being in a position of power can do to some people.

The worst thing for the victims is living with the feeling of total shame. As though “you” are the one to blame for allowing it to happen. You never shake that off.


I used to work for a medical association. At our annual meeting/tradeshow, the game was to pick the second or third wife when a couple walked up to the booth faster than our co-workers. Like the license plate game on roadtrips.


What does this have to do with sexual abuse?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Nit Picking Prick » 07 Oct 2017, 20:36

quix wrote:Actually I was feeling a little bias earlier against the creative industries as I recalled my own experience. But actually, wherever there are people, mainly men, in positions of power or authority where the opportunity to exploit young or vulnerable people is possible, there is the potential for sexual abuse. It happens in schools, colleges, doctors’ surgeries, church or religious communities, hospitals, children’s homes, you name it. It’s not just the creative industries and it’s not just because of the prevalence of drugs or money. I suppose it’s what being in a position of power can do to some people.

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby sloopjohnc » 07 Oct 2017, 21:11

bee-eating feminist says you're late wrote:
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quix wrote:Actually I was feeling a little bias earlier against the creative industries as I recalled my own experience. But actually, wherever there are people, mainly men, in positions of power or authority where the opportunity to exploit young or vulnerable people is possible, there is the potential for sexual abuse. It happens in schools, colleges, doctors’ surgeries, church or religious communities, hospitals, children’s homes, you name it. It’s not just the creative industries and it’s not just because of the prevalence of drugs or money. I suppose it’s what being in a position of power can do to some people.

The worst thing for the victims is living with the feeling of total shame. As though “you” are the one to blame for allowing it to happen. You never shake that off.


I used to work for a medical association. At our annual meeting/tradeshow, the game was to pick the second or third wife when a couple walked up to the booth faster than our co-workers. Like the license plate game on roadtrips.


What does this have to do with sexual abuse?


I veered off the main topic to write about doctors and hospitals.

I've been on here a few years but nobody's sent me the rule book. Sorry, ref.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Nit Picking Prick » 07 Oct 2017, 21:14

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby quix » 07 Oct 2017, 21:19

I’m still trying to work out the game but I probably don’t want to :(

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby The Great Defector » 09 Oct 2017, 15:26

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41546694

Harvey Weinstein sacked after sexual harassment claims


Game over or will he be a Hollywood redemption story?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Oct 2017, 16:22

quix wrote:I know this from personal experience...


:(

oh, quix, I'm sad to read this
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

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The Great Defector wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41546694

Harvey Weinstein sacked after sexual harassment claims


Game over or will he be a Hollywood redemption story?


Pretty sure he’s toast.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby The Great Defector » 09 Oct 2017, 16:34

Rich toast.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby PENK » 09 Oct 2017, 22:51

Still Baron wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41546694

Harvey Weinstein sacked after sexual harassment claims


Game over or will he be a Hollywood redemption story?


Pretty sure he’s toast.

Or Potus material.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Geezee » 10 Oct 2017, 09:21

This whole "open secret" thing I find very hard to deal with. If people knew, why has it taken this long? Same with Saville.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Tactful Cactus » 10 Oct 2017, 18:09

A tape of him trying to get a woman into his room - definitely not a comfortable listen. He sounds like a champion scumbag.
http://digg.com/2017/weinstein-accuser-recording

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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby Count Machuki » 10 Oct 2017, 18:11

Tactful Cactus wrote:A tape of him trying to get a woman into his room - definitely not a comfortable listen. He sounds like a champion scumbag.
http://digg.com/2017/weinstein-accuser-recording


Sounds like?

I read this NYer article aghast.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... ir-stories
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Re: Harvey Weinstein in trouble

Postby bobzilla77 » 10 Oct 2017, 20:34

It's kind of astounding as it unfurls. And the reaction is going to be worth watching. He is already being defended in some quarters, let's see how long that continues as more and more women come forward.
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