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international behavioural norms

Postby THE FILING FEE » 08 Aug 2017, 07:25

Are there such things as universally-accepted codes of behaviour?

All languages have a 'thank you' - but the Spanish por favor is relatively rarely used, and I was told on several occasions that its use makes the speaker look slightly weak, almost begging.

Finns (apparently) will look at you until you've finished speaking, and then add their thoughts. They're not going to chime in with 'really?', 'did you?' - as we're prone to do.

And of course the Germans tend to respond to any request for information with (loosely translated) 'fuck off you cunt'
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Nick » 08 Aug 2017, 09:07

Something I noticed in India, they generally don’t have the reticence we do in the UK about discussing salaries or income.

It’s quite normal for a casual acquaintance to ask about your job and to inquire exactly what you earn. It really took me aback the first couple of times it happened.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Aug 2017, 09:41

Nick wrote:Something I noticed in India, they generally don’t have the reticence we do in the UK about discussing salaries or income.

It’s quite normal for a casual acquaintance to ask about your job and to inquire exactly what you earn. It really took me aback the first couple of times it happened.


First two questions they ask you:

are you married?
What is your job?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 08 Aug 2017, 09:44

Goat Boy wrote:
Nick wrote:Something I noticed in India, they generally don’t have the reticence we do in the UK about discussing salaries or income.

It’s quite normal for a casual acquaintance to ask about your job and to inquire exactly what you earn. It really took me aback the first couple of times it happened.


First two questions they ask you:

are you married?
What is your job?


That is new to me -

I thought people in India (and Pakistan) were polite, reluctant in these matters.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Aug 2017, 09:47

Well it's not impolite to them. It's a status thing. It's a way of them finding out where you are in the pecking order back home. It doesn't surprise me that questions about wages would then come into it
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby fire and fueryIre » 08 Aug 2017, 10:30

Dr. B. Eef wrote:
And of course the Germans tend to respond to any request for information with (loosely translated) 'fuck off you cunt'



Meet a lot of Germans do you, Coany?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 08 Aug 2017, 10:31

Goat Boy wrote:Well it's not impolite to them. It's a status thing. It's a way of them finding out where you are in the pecking order back home. It doesn't surprise me that questions about wages would then come into it


Is it related to the caste system?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 08 Aug 2017, 10:31

fueryIre wrote:
Dr. B. Eef wrote:
And of course the Germans tend to respond to any request for information with (loosely translated) 'fuck off you cunt'



Meet a lot of Germans do you, Coany?


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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Aug 2017, 10:39

Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:Well it's not impolite to them. It's a status thing. It's a way of them finding out where you are in the pecking order back home. It doesn't surprise me that questions about wages would then come into it


Is it related to the caste system?


I would assume so, yes.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby THE FILING FEE » 08 Aug 2017, 10:58

fueryIre wrote:
Dr. B. Eef wrote:
And of course the Germans tend to respond to any request for information with (loosely translated) 'fuck off you cunt'



Meet a lot of Germans do you, Coany?


I don't think I could put a number on it, but yes, I've met many.

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In 1992 I worked as a Frühstück Mitarbeiter for almost the whole year in Hotel Arcade in Wiesbaden - a great year, actually. Lots of fun.

I taught English in Halle (in the former East Germany) for three months in 1999. And I returned (following many short visits) in 2015 to work as a freelance teacher in Berlin. I'd still be there now if there wasn't a rental crisis in the city.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby fire and fueryIre » 08 Aug 2017, 11:23

Seem to recall reading somewhere that German surgeons are also supposed to be amongst the best in the world at reversing irony bypasses...
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Count Machuki » 08 Aug 2017, 11:46

Dr. B. Eef wrote:
All languages have a 'thank you' - but the Spanish por favor is relatively rarely used, and I was told on several occasions that its use makes the speaker look slightly weak, almost begging.


Ok, por favor is "please" not "thank you," as I'm sure you know.
But...
Begging? Were you talking to some macho dudes about this?
Who doesn't say please? I say please, and I'm not weak.
Now if I said "por fiiiis" all cute like, maybe...

Anyway, I probably speak weak, familial Spanish, so whatever.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Nick » 08 Aug 2017, 11:50

Goat Boy wrote:First two questions they ask you:

are you married?
What is your job?


Yep. Also:

What is your good name?

And your mother country?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby THE FILING FEE » 08 Aug 2017, 12:22

fueryIre wrote:Seem to recall reading somewhere that German surgeons are also supposed to be amongst the best in the world at reversing irony bypasses...


True.

When's the op?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby PENK » 08 Aug 2017, 12:32

Count Machuki wrote:
Dr. B. Eef wrote:
All languages have a 'thank you' - but the Spanish por favor is relatively rarely used, and I was told on several occasions that its use makes the speaker look slightly weak, almost begging.


Ok, por favor is "please" not "thank you," as I'm sure you know.
But...
Begging? Were you talking to some macho dudes about this?
Who doesn't say please? I say please, and I'm not weak.
Now if I said "por fiiiis" all cute like, maybe...

Anyway, I probably speak weak, familial Spanish, so whatever.


It's maybe a difference between Peninsular and American Spanish, as I also remember "por favor" being uncommon in Spain. They thought our habit of saying "please" for everything cheapened the word.
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Goat Boy » 08 Aug 2017, 12:39

Nick wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:First two questions they ask you:

are you married?
What is your job?


Yep. Also:

What is your good name?

And your mother country?


And: hash? HASH?
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Still Baron » 08 Aug 2017, 12:42

PENK wrote:It's maybe a difference between Peninsular and American Spanish, as I also remember "por favor" being uncommon in Spain. They thought our habit of saying "please" for everything cheapened the word.


Really? What a bunch of FUCKING ASSHOLES!
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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby The Great Defector » 08 Aug 2017, 12:51

Dr. B. Eef wrote:Following three separate school exchange visits (1983, 1984, 1985) I studied economics at the Fachhochschule in Reutlingen as part of the Erasmus programme for six months in 1990. I returned the following summer (God knows why!) to work there.

In 1992 I worked as a Frühstück Mitarbeiter for almost the whole year in Hotel Arcade in Wiesbaden - a great year, actually. Lots of fun.

I taught English in Halle (in the former East Germany) for three months in 1999. And I returned (following many short visits) in 2015 to work as a freelance teacher in Berlin. I'd still be there now if there wasn't a rental crisis in the city.



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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby THE FILING FEE » 08 Aug 2017, 13:06

PENK wrote:
Count Machuki wrote:
Dr. B. Eef wrote:
All languages have a 'thank you' - but the Spanish por favor is relatively rarely used, and I was told on several occasions that its use makes the speaker look slightly weak, almost begging.


Ok, por favor is "please" not "thank you," as I'm sure you know.
But...
Begging? Were you talking to some macho dudes about this?
Who doesn't say please? I say please, and I'm not weak.
Now if I said "por fiiiis" all cute like, maybe...

Anyway, I probably speak weak, familial Spanish, so whatever.


It's maybe a difference between Peninsular and American Spanish, as I also remember "por favor" being uncommon in Spain. They thought our habit of saying "please" for everything cheapened the word.


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Re: international behavioural norms

Postby Samoan » 08 Aug 2017, 13:17

I love that Kiwis say ''thanks'' in place of ''please.''
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