May still desperately clinging on to power

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby caramba » 13 Dec 2018, 10:02

yomptepi wrote:
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a lot can change in three and half years...


Is that a prediction Yomp?
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I don't really have any horse in the race, unlike your Corbyn adoring brother. My view is based on the desperate lack of potential in the house of commons. In every party. I cannot see a single person who has the intestinal fortitude to take on being Prime Minister. Not one. They are all vacuous , self regarding arsewipes. It is a disgrace. I really would like to see the whole house cleaned out , and a new batch of MP's elected. We need to clear out the dead wood. The tired old warhorses, the senile old goats, and the dim witted, ill educated politically correct dullards. Kick them all out and let us have some new blood. A new generation of politicians who are more interested in doing their jobs than standing at a subsidised bar all night, plotting. Our present HOC is a fucking disgrace. I would also like to see a limit on the number of years you can " serve , ( and I use that term ironically) to to terms. I think there is something very whiffy about people who have spent their lives lurking around the halls of Westminster. Time for a change.


Unfortunately, any changes such as the drafting of a formal written constitution would have to be proposed, debated and then passed into law by the current crowd of wasters. All in all, I'd say the signs were not encouraging.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 13 Dec 2018, 10:23

I will say that I agree with a lot of what Yomp says regarding the present House Of Commons and its desperate lack of leadership material.

I have to say I'm far from impressed with the two major replies by him to May re the withdrawal of the Brexit vote and then again yesterday. He really isn't a very good speaker when he has to think on his feet - he stumbles and appears to lose his train of thought and, in the days of soundbite TV, he often comes across as less than fluent/cogent. The really poor thing was that he was given an advance copy of May's Brexit vote withdrawal, and still didn't manage to have a train of thought throughout his reply - he seemed to veer wildly from one thread to another and singularly failed to strike the killer blow that seemed so relatively easy to land.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Diamond Dog wrote:I will say that I agree with a lot of what Yomp says regarding the present House Of Commons and its desperate lack of leadership material.

I have to say I'm far from impressed with the two major replies by him to May re the withdrawal of the Brexit vote and then again yesterday. He really isn't a very good speaker when he has to think on his feet - he stumbles and appears to lose his train of thought and, in the days of soundbite TV, he often comes across as less than fluent/cogent. The really poor thing was that he was given an advance copy of May's Brexit vote withdrawal, and still didn't manage to have a train of thought throughout his reply - he seemed to veer wildly from one thread to another and singularly failed to strike the killer blow that seemed so relatively easy to land.


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Diamond Dog wrote:I will say that I agree with a lot of what Yomp says regarding the present House Of Commons and its desperate lack of leadership material.

I have to say I'm far from impressed with the two major replies by him to May re the withdrawal of the Brexit vote and then again yesterday. He really isn't a very good speaker when he has to think on his feet - he stumbles and appears to lose his train of thought and, in the days of soundbite TV, he often comes across as less than fluent/cogent. The really poor thing was that he was given an advance copy of May's Brexit vote withdrawal, and still didn't manage to have a train of thought throughout his reply - he seemed to veer wildly from one thread to another and singularly failed to strike the killer blow that seemed so relatively easy to land.


Corbyn couldn't land a punch in an old folks home.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Deebank » 13 Dec 2018, 12:31

Diamond Dog wrote:I will say that I agree with a lot of what Yomp says regarding the present House Of Commons and its desperate lack of leadership material.

I have to say I'm far from impressed with the two major replies by him to May re the withdrawal of the Brexit vote and then again yesterday. He really isn't a very good speaker when he has to think on his feet - he stumbles and appears to lose his train of thought and, in the days of soundbite TV, he often comes across as less than fluent/cogent. The really poor thing was that he was given an advance copy of May's Brexit vote withdrawal, and still didn't manage to have a train of thought throughout his reply - he seemed to veer wildly from one thread to another and singularly failed to strike the killer blow that seemed so relatively easy to land.



Corbyn or Yomp?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Rorschach » 13 Dec 2018, 13:19

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Diamond Dog wrote:I will say that I agree with a lot of what Yomp says regarding the present House Of Commons and its desperate lack of leadership material.

I have to say I'm far from impressed with the two major replies by him to May re the withdrawal of the Brexit vote and then again yesterday. He really isn't a very good speaker when he has to think on his feet - he stumbles and appears to lose his train of thought and, in the days of soundbite TV, he often comes across as less than fluent/cogent. The really poor thing was that he was given an advance copy of May's Brexit vote withdrawal, and still didn't manage to have a train of thought throughout his reply - he seemed to veer wildly from one thread to another and singularly failed to strike the killer blow that seemed so relatively easy to land.



Corbyn or Yomp?


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Lord Rother » 13 Dec 2018, 14:25

+1 :lol:

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 13 Dec 2018, 18:00

Toby wrote:Corbyn managed to sustain his leadership of the Labour party despite losing a confidence vote of 40 to 172.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 07826.html


That is because he had the overwhelming confidence of his party.

May would do far worse with her Party, as far as such thing actually exists anymore, than her MPs.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 13 Dec 2018, 18:02

yomptepi wrote:And of course it pushes back any hopes of the election the increasing senile and decrepit Corbyn is so desperate for. By the time we get to vote , he will be even more of gibbering ninny than he is now. And you just don't hear the singing so much these days, do you?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're lo=sing it, you just know he is going to be PM now and you are starting to gibber at the thought


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby yomptepi » 13 Dec 2018, 18:06

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yomptepi wrote:And of course it pushes back any hopes of the election the increasing senile and decrepit Corbyn is so desperate for. By the time we get to vote , he will be even more of gibbering ninny than he is now. And you just don't hear the singing so much these days, do you?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're lo=sing it, you just know he is going to be PM now and you are starting to gibber at the thought


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He is still 68 seats short of a majority. So how will that be any better? Plus the entire front bench are brain dead. It might work in Wales though.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Samoan » 13 Dec 2018, 19:20

Copehead wrote:
Toby wrote:Corbyn managed to sustain his leadership of the Labour party despite losing a confidence vote of 40 to 172.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 07826.html


That is because he had the overwhelming confidence of his party.

....

Not really: not my MP for one. He was going to have 'words' with her.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rosena-allin-khan-brexit-referendum-rally_uk_5c0d5072e4b0a606a9a9c84d
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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I enjoyed this

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Samoan wrote:
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Toby wrote:Corbyn managed to sustain his leadership of the Labour party despite losing a confidence vote of 40 to 172.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 07826.html


That is because he had the overwhelming confidence of his party.

....

Not really: not my MP for one. He was going to have 'words' with her.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rosena-allin-khan-brexit-referendum-rally_uk_5c0d5072e4b0a606a9a9c84d


The PLP are not the Party, the nearly 600,000 members and hundreds of thousands of union affiliates with voting rights are.

You are talking about a few dozen petulant Blairites not the Party.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 14 Dec 2018, 00:18

Here's something that Mike and Toby can be rightly proud of:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/14/average-uk-worker-earn-third-less-than-2008-tuc-real-wage-report

Average UK workers earning a third less than in 2008 – report
TUC study finds London workers hit hardest with real wages down by £20,000


You can't argue with economic competence like that

Or you could hold the view that impoverishing Britons to enrich a tiny elite the is a deliberate act, in which case you would be a moron to support it if you weren't part of that elite.

Either way not easy to explain why you would support a party that has done this by design or incompetence.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby yomptepi » 14 Dec 2018, 00:28

Copehead wrote:Here's something that Mike and Toby can be rightly proud of:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/14/average-uk-worker-earn-third-less-than-2008-tuc-real-wage-report

Average UK workers earning a third less than in 2008 – report
TUC study finds London workers hit hardest with real wages down by £20,000


You can't argue with economic competence like that

Or you could hold the view that impoverishing Britons to enrich a tiny elite the is a deliberate act, in which case you would be a moron to support it if you weren't part of that elite.

Either way not easy to explain why you would support a party that has done this by design or incompetence.


You don't have any problem supporting the party that caused the financial crash, and who implemented austerity, quantitative easing and everything else which left our economy in ruins. You even have the gall to suggest a semi conscious septuagenarian has all the answers.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 14 Dec 2018, 06:21

yomptepi wrote:You don't have any problem supporting the party that caused the financial crash, and who implemented austerity, quantitative easing and everything else which left our economy in ruins. You even have the gall to suggest a semi conscious septuagenarian has all the answers.


I thought you were still in your sixties, Yomp?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 14 Dec 2018, 10:02

yomptepi wrote:
Copehead wrote:Here's something that Mike and Toby can be rightly proud of:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/14/average-uk-worker-earn-third-less-than-2008-tuc-real-wage-report

Average UK workers earning a third less than in 2008 – report
TUC study finds London workers hit hardest with real wages down by £20,000


You can't argue with economic competence like that

Or you could hold the view that impoverishing Britons to enrich a tiny elite the is a deliberate act, in which case you would be a moron to support it if you weren't part of that elite.

Either way not easy to explain why you would support a party that has done this by design or incompetence.


You don't have any problem supporting the party that caused the financial crash, and who implemented austerity, quantitative easing and everything else which left our economy in ruins. You even have the gall to suggest a semi conscious septuagenarian has all the answers.


Even you don't believe the Labour Party caused a financial meltdown triggered by sub-prime mortgage lending in the USA, do you? Even if yo are that mad don't you think getting on for 9 years is long enough fo the Tories to be responsible for the current problems?

Labour also did not introduce "austerity" in 2010 they had a Keynsian plan in place that was working before the clown show that is the Old Etonian show took over.

Quantitative easing was a perfectly rational first line of attack on the down turn if it had been targeted correctly, of course the Tories didn't do that they targeted it straight into the pockets of the rich and then offshore because either this was the plan or they are morons.

You have the gall to suggest that Labour are responsible for this nearly 9 years after the Tories took power? I thought you Tories were the party of personal responsibility, but you are like children.

Here's another one for you to be proud of:


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/13/disgrace-rising-english-homelessness-includes-120000-children

More than 24,000 people in Britain will spend the festive period sleeping rough or in cars, trains, buses or tents, according to new estimates that throw light on the scale of so-called “hidden” homelessness.

Research by the charity Crisis suggests 12,300 people are sleeping rough on the streets – the official figure is 4,751 – while a further 12,000 will spend the night in tents, cars, sheds, bins or night buses.

The figures suggest formal estimates of rough sleeping fail to capture the true scale of the problem. The Crisis figures, calculated by specialist researchers at Heriot-Watt University, suggest the number of rough sleepers in Britain has risen by 98% since 2010, and the number in tents and buses has increased by 103%.


Funny how rough sleeping explodes under Tory regimes, almost like you don't give a fuck as long as you are not effected.

That is not the behaviour of decent people.

Decent people vote Labour, time for you to do the same, much good it will do you where you live.
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Postby Toby » 14 Dec 2018, 10:04

Copehead wrote:Decent people vote Labour, time for you to do the same, much good it will do you where you live.


Got any statistical evidence for that?

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby NMB » 14 Dec 2018, 11:18

Toby wrote:
Copehead wrote:Decent people vote Labour, time for you to do the same, much good it will do you where you live.


Got any statistical evidence for that?

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Postby Samoan » 14 Dec 2018, 11:39

Copehead wrote:Decent people vote Labour, time for you to do the same, much good it will do you where you live.

:roll:

My three Labour councillors are far from what I'd call decent people and you would change your mind if you met many of my Labour voting neighbours.

Do you consider Sadiq Khan branding people "bastards" to be decent behaviour ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/social-affairs/politics/news/69391/voters-are-bastards-london-mayoral-candidate-sadiq-khan

He's always kvetching about something or other, such as how all the boys at his daughters' school look like Justin Bieber.

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