Copehead wrote:The one major bone of contention is Brexit, Corbyn has to play a long game and a clever game because 64% of Labour voters backed remain but the country and a large minority of Labour supporters didn't. As a remainer I was not happy with his tactics to begin with but I have come to see that he is making a decent fist of a difficult position. He is giving the Tories the rope to hang themselves with and refusing to become involved and implicated in their Brexit. He has to allow them to wholly own this shambles so when it ends in disaster, as it surely will, it will fuck the Tories so badly I will be dead and gone before we see their kakocratic like in power again.
The immediate problem Corbyn faces is that a new YouGov poll suggests nearly 80% of Labour members want a second referendum, or a 'ratification referendum' as Clive Lewis termed it yesterday on Radio 4. He will have to tackle that issue at some point.
On the left they are always being told that the Labour membership are not the same as Labour voters.
The critical difference is that Labour members are more engaged with politics and more nuanced in their politics.
One of the tings I would imagine most of them think about Brexit is that is absolutely essential that Labour do not get involved in a way where the Tories can share out any blame on this.
It is there shit sandwich, they must be made to eat it.
It is fine joining with Tory backbenchers to defeat stupid and totalitarian things the Tories try to bring through with Brexit, today getting students taken off immigration target figures, which would be a massive boon for your sector. But by and large Corbyn and the Labour Party as a whole must not be associated with this national disaster.
There is no point jumping up and down and shouting about a second referendum unless you can deliver it with Tory back benchers, otherwise it is just grandstanding to no positive effect, it won't make many people, or any people, more likely to vote Labour and it could alienate a few Northern Turkeys.
Sit back and watch the Tories try and eat a shit sandwich, when it all collapses step in and take over and then offer a second referendum.
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