May still desperately clinging on to power

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Dr Markus » 22 Dec 2017, 15:26

YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with yomp’s last two posts.

Now sit back and enjoy Xmas while you can.



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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 22 Dec 2017, 15:30

yomptepi wrote:This whole thread is a sidetrack.
May can only continue clinging to power because the opposition are so desperately poor. They couldn't remove a sticking plaster, far less a weak and damaged third rate prime minister who is beyond defending. It is a measure of the magnitude of the Brexit negotiations , and the utter paucity of the Labour team that she still marches on, almost unchallenged. It is almost as if we do not have an opposition.



Fancy explaining your staunch defence of Damian Green and how the police were fabricating the charges so they could get a budget increase next year? ?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 22 Dec 2017, 15:30

YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with yomp’s last two posts.


That's only because you're as dumb as he is.
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Postby yomptepi » 22 Dec 2017, 15:40

Diamond Dog wrote:
yomptepi wrote:This whole thread is a sidetrack.
May can only continue clinging to power because the opposition are so desperately poor. They couldn't remove a sticking plaster, far less a weak and damaged third rate prime minister who is beyond defending. It is a measure of the magnitude of the Brexit negotiations , and the utter paucity of the Labour team that she still marches on, almost unchallenged. It is almost as if we do not have an opposition.



Fancy explaining your staunch defence of Damian Green and how the police were fabricating the charges so they could get a budget increase next year? ?


It looks like both those so called " retired officers " are going to be charged with gross misconduct. The notebook should not have been in Bob Quick's possession in the first place, and the Commissioner is still at a loss to explain which part of Green's " actions " were in fact illegal. It was , exactly as I said, a set up to discredit another minister ( following their expertly carried out assassination of Andrew Mitchell) in order to show the politicians that the Police are not afraid to use their new powers of data collections to get what they want from them. There is still no proof that Green downloaded the porn, and nobody is using that a reason for his dismissal. He has been fired for lying. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the fucking police though, and I think we should all be very aware of what they are doing.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby yomptepi » 22 Dec 2017, 15:42

Diamond Dog wrote:
YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with yomp’s last two posts.


That's only because you're as dumb as he is.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 22 Dec 2017, 15:52

yomptepi wrote:It looks like both those so called " retired officers " are going to be charged with gross misconduct. The notebook should not have been in Bob Quick's possession in the first place, and the Commissioner is still at a loss to explain which part of Green's " actions " were in fact illegal. It was , exactly as I said, a set up to discredit another minister ( following their expertly carried out assassination of Andrew Mitchell) in order to show the politicians that the Police are not afraid to use their new powers of data collections to get what they want from them. There is still no proof that Green downloaded the porn, and nobody is using that a reason for his dismissal. He has been fired for lying. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the fucking police though, and I think we should all be very aware of what they are doing.


He has been fired for lying. Why would he have lied about knowing whether the porn was there if it wasn't?

I don;t believe anyone at any time has said Green's actions were illegal - not once. Of course, you clearly want that to be the case, because it then allows you to deflect from the real issues, but it never was - so stop throwing things that have never been said into the debate to avoid answering your staunch defence of a MInister who :

a) Lied to both the PM and the public,
b) Was responsible for porn on his HofC computer
c) Completely abrogated the security rules for his position.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby yomptepi » 22 Dec 2017, 15:59

Diamond Dog wrote:
yomptepi wrote:It looks like both those so called " retired officers " are going to be charged with gross misconduct. The notebook should not have been in Bob Quick's possession in the first place, and the Commissioner is still at a loss to explain which part of Green's " actions " were in fact illegal. It was , exactly as I said, a set up to discredit another minister ( following their expertly carried out assassination of Andrew Mitchell) in order to show the politicians that the Police are not afraid to use their new powers of data collections to get what they want from them. There is still no proof that Green downloaded the porn, and nobody is using that a reason for his dismissal. He has been fired for lying. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem with the fucking police though, and I think we should all be very aware of what they are doing.


He has been fired for lying. Why would he have lied about knowing whether the porn was there if it wasn't?

I don;t believe anyone at any time has said Green's actions were illegal - not once. Of course, you clearly want that to be the case, because it then allows you to deflect from the real issues, but it never was - so stop throwing things that have never been said into the debate to avoid answering your staunch defence of a MInister who :

a) Lied to both the PM and the public,
b) Was responsible for porn on his HofC computer
c) Completely abrogated the security rules for his position.


Which is a police matter how? Surely in order for the police to be involved there has to be some sort of criminal activity. There has been none. So why then are are two senior retired officers hounding him out of his job?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 22 Dec 2017, 16:03

How exactly are they hounding him out of a job?

If he's abrogated the security rules around computers and data, yes it is a police matter - when you're a Govt Minister. Official Secrets Act.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 22 Dec 2017, 16:04

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YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with yomp’s last two posts.


That's only because you're as dumb as he is.


You don't think Yomps post about the opposition has any ring of truth about it?
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Postby yomptepi » 22 Dec 2017, 16:06

Diamond Dog wrote:How exactly are they hounding him out of a job?

If he's abrogated the security rules around computers and data, yes it is a police matter - when you're a Govt Minister. Official Secrets Act.


Not according to the Police it isn't. They are going to investigate why this whole matter was bough to light by the policemen involved, both of whom could lose their pensions. There is an inter departmental issue with sharing of passwords and lax security inside various departments, but nothing which warrants this, especially after nine years, This is a personal vendetta.
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Postby K » 22 Dec 2017, 16:11

You are a bit of a dumbo, Yomp.

The police were investigating something else and discovered the porn. Since this person is paid out of the public purse I'm quite glad they've outed him as having porn on his work computer. He should have been sacked for that, but he wasn't, he was sacked for lying. He could have porn on his work computer as long as he doesn't lie about it. He can give other people his log in as long as he doesn't lie about it.
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Postby yomptepi » 22 Dec 2017, 16:14

Darryl Strawberry wrote:You are a bit of a dumbo, Yomp.

The police were investigating something else and discovered the porn. Since this person is paid out of the public purse I'm quite glad they've outed him as having porn on his work computer. He should have been sacked for that, but he wasn't, he was sacked for lying. He could have porn on his work computer as long as he doesn't lie about it. He can give other people his log in as long as he doesn't lie about it.


You are a bit of cock K.

That does not explain the nine year interval. Or why two retired police officers became involved. You are clearly ( like Pete ) so partisan that you have no interest in the real reasons. Which is fine. As long as you don't whine like a bitch when they come after your beloved incompetent half wits.

And it still doesn't explain which part of what he did required the police to be involved in the first place.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Bumblecorn Cats Nightmare » 22 Dec 2017, 16:22

Goat Boy wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with yomp’s last two posts.


That's only because you're as dumb as he is.


You don't think Yomps post about the opposition has any ring of truth about it?


You have to shake your fist and shout about EVIL TORIES here Dougie, or face the wrath of Pete ‘Google O’Speedy’ Harris.
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lol.

The old Google ploy.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 22 Dec 2017, 16:32

YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:
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That's only because you're as dumb as he is.


You don't think Yomps post about the opposition has any ring of truth about it?


You have to shake your fist and shout about EVIL TORIES here Dougie, or face the wrath of Pete ‘Google O’Speedy’ Harris.


Don't worry, John. Their numbers are dwindling and their leader, Griff, has clearly succumb to political delirium.

We are taking over.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 22 Dec 2017, 16:51

This of course isn't to mention him grabbing a female journalist and then sending her improper texts.

But that, on top of the lying, security lapses and porn, makes him a typical Tory.

Which is why you all see fit to defend him.

Same as it ever was.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 22 Dec 2017, 16:54

Why does someone watching porn make them a typical Tory?
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Diamond Dog wrote:This of course isn't to mention him grabbing a female journalist and then sending her improper texts.

But that, on top of the lying, security lapses and porn, makes him a typical Tory.

Which is why you all see fit to defend him.

Same as it ever was.


I have not defended him. I have accused the police. I have no interest in Green ( who would have) nor have I any interest in the "journalist" I am interested in the abuse of power the police have demonstrated yet again. There is no case for him to answer, other than to to zealots like you and your new best mate K
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Goat Boy wrote:
YOU BLOODY STUPID PAIR OF BUGGERS wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:
You don't think Yomps post about the opposition has any ring of truth about it?


You have to shake your fist and shout about EVIL TORIES here Dougie, or face the wrath of Pete ‘Google O’Speedy’ Harris.


Don't worry, John. Their numbers are dwindling and their leader, Griff, has clearly succumb to political delirium.

We are taking over.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Diamond Dog wrote:This of course isn't to mention him grabbing a female journalist and then sending her improper texts.

But that, on top of the lying, security lapses and porn, makes him a typical Tory.

Which is why you all see fit to defend him.

Same as it ever was.
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