May still desperately clinging on to power

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Samoan » 05 May 2018, 09:02

Copehead wrote:If you want to know what Corbyn thinks about the EU and Brexit just read what he fucking writes for craps sake, it isn't difficult.

You don't actually think he writes anything that Seumas Milne hasn't dictated ?

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Copehead wrote:If you want to know what Corbyn thinks about the EU and Brexit just read what he fucking writes for craps sake, it isn't difficult.

You don't actually think he writes anything that Seumas Milne hasn't dictated ?


You don't actually think.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Samoan » 05 May 2018, 09:17

Take issue with the post not the poster.
You lose.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 05 May 2018, 09:30

Even if the poster has such a virulent bias that they're incapable of writing anything remotely sensible about the subject?

Oh, and by the way, I'd strongly suggest your post is attacking Copey's capacity for comprehension, wouldn't you?

Ta-ra.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 May 2018, 09:46

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Samoan » 05 May 2018, 09:47

Take issue with the post not the poster.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 May 2018, 09:48

Samoan wrote:
Copehead wrote:If you want to know what Corbyn thinks about the EU and Brexit just read what he fucking writes for craps sake, it isn't difficult.

You don't actually think he writes anything that Seumas Milne hasn't dictated ?


Yes I do.

If you want to make a prick of yourself with tin foil hat conspiracies about nasty marxists taking over th eUK that is up to you.

But seriously, wtf!

Still scared of reds under the beds after 40 years of neo-liberalism? That is stupid.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Samoan wrote:Take issue with the post not the poster.


I thought I did

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Samoan » 05 May 2018, 10:13

Copehead wrote:
Samoan wrote:
Copehead wrote:If you want to know what Corbyn thinks about the EU and Brexit just read what he fucking writes for craps sake, it isn't difficult.

You don't actually think he writes anything that Seumas Milne hasn't dictated ?


Yes I do.

If you want to make a prick of yourself with tin foil hat conspiracies about nasty marxists taking over th eUK that is up to you.

But seriously, wtf!

Still scared of reds under the beds after 40 years of neo-liberalism? That is stupid.

If you insist.

I know we haven't actually met, so you'll have to take my word on that, but your understanding of human anatomy is flawed.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Butch Manly » 05 May 2018, 10:56

Insouciant Western People wrote: he has the potential to make an excellent Home or Foreign Secretary.


As a Tory, he also has the potential to preside over vile, racist policies and then claim not to know anything about them. Let's face it, Rudd was supposedly competent and relatively liberal and yet....
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Butch Manly » 05 May 2018, 11:48

Toby wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Most people have very little interest in politics and don't pay attention at all between big elections.


Again, this is where you are wrong, to make such widespread assumptions about people. It's the same, distanced perspective that looks at statistics and applies the notion that "people are thick" - because IQ tests show that half the population are below average intelligence in terms of one marker, they MUST have no idea about politics whatsoever. It's the fundamental issue that bedevils the upper echelons of the leftist spectrum - racists, yokels, thick, uneducated etc etc. And why many leftists crow about "Tories not caring about people" when they make the same sorts of kindergarten-level political mistakes themselves.




This from the self-confessed patrician member of the board. Seriously, you couldn't make it up.


(Put another way - Beware of Tories feigning sympathy or concern for the plebs)
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 05 May 2018, 12:22

Insouciant Western People wrote:Corbyn. The man who voted to leave the EU in 1975. Who voted against the Maastricht Treaty. Who voted against the Lisbon Treaty. Whose 'campaigning' in favour of Remain was about as convincing as the Pope would be shilling for Durex.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 May 2018, 13:21

Samoan wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Samoan wrote:You don't actually think he writes anything that Seumas Milne hasn't dictated ?


Yes I do.

If you want to make a prick of yourself with tin foil hat conspiracies about nasty marxists taking over th eUK that is up to you.

But seriously, wtf!

Still scared of reds under the beds after 40 years of neo-liberalism? That is stupid.

If you insist.

I know we haven't actually met, so you'll have to take my word on that, but your understanding of human anatomy is flawed.


Flawed? I have an A in O level Biology

I think I know a prick when I see it.

I think females can be pricks as well, as you are so ably demonstrating.
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Postby Insouciant Western People » 05 May 2018, 17:53

Copehead wrote:(Labour have) more councillors than every other party combined. When you are that far ahead in local politics...


Except they don't, and they aren't.

Overall in the UK, the Conservatives hold 9,081 council seats.

Labour hold 6,470.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 05 May 2018, 18:19

German Dave wrote:
Toby wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Most people have very little interest in politics and don't pay attention at all between big elections.


Again, this is where you are wrong, to make such widespread assumptions about people. It's the same, distanced perspective that looks at statistics and applies the notion that "people are thick" - because IQ tests show that half the population are below average intelligence in terms of one marker, they MUST have no idea about politics whatsoever. It's the fundamental issue that bedevils the upper echelons of the leftist spectrum - racists, yokels, thick, uneducated etc etc. And why many leftists crow about "Tories not caring about people" when they make the same sorts of kindergarten-level political mistakes themselves.




This from the self-confessed patrician member of the board. Seriously, you couldn't make it up.


(Put another way - Beware of Tories feigning sympathy or concern for the plebs)


Beware of socialists/left wingers feigning sympathy or concern for the plebs too. Same cunts, different hue.

Toby has a valid point. Copehead, and other BCBers btw, demonstrate this all the time. The perceived moral and intellectual superiority, the barely concealed prejudice against the people they allege they actually want to help. Nauseating.

I'm sure it impresses people at dinner parties...."oh, you voted for Corbyn...".

The very worst kind of left wing cunts.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Toby » 05 May 2018, 18:32

Both parties have elites that are condescending. I'm not saying the Tories don't, because they clearly do. But to suggest that Labour doesn't is farcical. It's just that the application of terms such as racist, bigot and homophobe often obscures the fact that under what might be seen as distasteful views are people. It's like the whole "my mum has bigoted views but she's still a nice person" quandary.

The same derisory epithets being handed out after the Referendum - Remoaners, Brexiteers. Perhaps it's just part of our political culture, which is more antagonistic than at any time I can remember on both sides of the political spectrum.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Insouciant Western People » 05 May 2018, 18:34

Goat Boy wrote:Toby has a valid point. Copehead, and other BCBers btw, demonstrate this all the time. The perceived moral and intellectual superiority, the barely concealed prejudice against the people they allege they actually want to help. Nauseating.


And the barely concealed rage from some on the left when anyone from the 'poor downtrodden masses' veers off the path of left wing 'righteousness' and dares to think differently.

Witness left wing activists, including Deebank's chum Tony Greenstein, calling Sajid Javid a 'coconut' on social media last week. He was also called an Uncle Tom by some of these self-proclaimed left anti-racist campaigners. Which takes quite some brass neck on their part.

This mode of thinking also gives rise to stuff like the ridiculous Labour campaign ad from last year about them apparently being the only party capable of unlocking the potential of young BAME people, which was rightly trolled by James Cleverly.

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Although the best comment on it, was Cleverly retweeting it with the pithy comment "Yes massa".

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Postby Belle Lettre » 05 May 2018, 18:51

You a self-hating working class, Nick :D
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 May 2018, 18:56

Insouciant Western People wrote:
Copehead wrote:(Labour have) more councillors than every other party combined. When you are that far ahead in local politics...


Except they don't, and they aren't.

Overall in the UK, the Conservatives hold 9,081 council seats.

Labour hold 6,470.


I think Owen Whotsit was talking about the seats up for grabs on Thursday, Labour won over 50% of those seats as far as I can see.

It probably wasn't clear what was being discussed.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 May 2018, 18:59

Goat Boy wrote:[qu
Toby has a valid point. Copehead, and other BCBers btw, demonstrate this all the time. The perceived moral and intellectual superiority, the barely concealed prejudice against the people they allege they actually want to help. Nauseating.

I'm sure it impresses people at dinner parties...."oh, you voted for Corbyn...".

The very worst kind of left wing cunts.


I'm not sure there is anything perceived about it :?

Again you have this idea that the working class are some sort of monolithic block, the lumpen proles, which is far more prejudiced and denigrating than anything I could come up with.
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