May still desperately clinging on to power

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Jimbo » 05 Jan 2018, 13:16



I watch/listen via iTunes to this channel four times a week and since May and her policies are mentioned, as are many geopolitical topics, and they asked me, a follower, to pass on this channel, here you go. You're welcome.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 05 Jan 2018, 20:42

yomptepi wrote:
Copehead wrote:The critical difference is that Labour members are more engaged with politics and more nuanced in their politics.
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Most Conservative members don't even remember they are members of the Conservative Party so it isn't difficult.

And the point is that people who take time out to join a political party are self evidently more engaged with politics than the population in general, joining a political party would be the definition of greater engagement.

Perhaps some join for the great offers on Waterford crystal decanter sets, I don't know.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Toby » 05 Jan 2018, 20:49



Scruton delivers a decent speech here about the problems that Conservatives in this country have when faced against the Left. One of the major issues is articulating the positives of existing structures and institutions against the inherent power of negativity that socialism has. i.e "this thing is shit - we need to change it".

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Postby Copehead » 05 Jan 2018, 20:53

Toby wrote:

Scruton delivers a decent speech here about the problems that Conservatives in this country have when faced against the Left. One of the major issues is articulating the positives of existing structures and institutions against the inherent power of negativity that socialism has. i.e "this thing is shit - we need to change it".


I wonder what the cut off date for institutions and structures considered worth preserving by Scruton are, as I can see YouTubes out here I am going to guess at 1277. Am I right?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Toby » 05 Jan 2018, 20:58

Copehead wrote:
I wonder what the cut off date for institutions and structures considered worth preserving by Scruton are, as I can see YouTubes out here I am going to guess at 1277. Am I right?


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No, Gay Marriage is discussed, so 21st century.

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Postby Copehead » 05 Jan 2018, 21:37

Toby wrote:
Copehead wrote:
I wonder what the cut off date for institutions and structures considered worth preserving by Scruton are, as I can see YouTubes out here I am going to guess at 1277. Am I right?


:lol:

No, Gay Marriage is discussed, so 21st century.


:shock: Blimey.

I don't have a huge amount of time for all of Scruton's political views but it strikes me he is generally intellectually consistent and he has morals, which is something in modern politics.
I wonder what his take on Trump is, other than polite disgust.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 08 Jan 2018, 03:43

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/07/nhs-falling-apart-theresa-may-evasions-crisis


It is to Theresa May’s credit that she has the self-awareness to unravel of her own accord, losing faith in her rhetoric even faster than her opponents can attack it. It was, without compare, the most rambling, directionless, insecure and inarticulate new year’s interview a British leader has ever given
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 08 Jan 2018, 21:55

Reshuffling this cabinet is like having a shit then rearranging your turds in the bowl.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 08 Jan 2018, 23:58

German Dave wrote:Reshuffling this cabinet is like having a shit then rearranging your turds in the bowl.


On Cif someone said: emptying the ashtrays on the Hindenberg.

All it does is highlight how powerless she is surely.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Deebank » 09 Jan 2018, 10:15

Copehead wrote:
German Dave wrote:Reshuffling this cabinet is like having a shit then rearranging your turds in the bowl.


On Cif someone said: emptying the ashtrays on the Hindenberg.

All it does is highlight how powerless she is surely.


Indeed, utter shambles:

However, the prime minister’s attempt to stamp her authority on her party was overshadowed by the botched changes at cabinet level, in which Jeremy Hunt refused to give up his job as health secretary and Greening refused to take the role of work and pensions secretary.


Asked whether the Conservative party was in a mess, (party chairman) Lewis replied “not quite” but was unable to say how many members it now had.


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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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The SNP is now Britain's second biggest party in the paid up membership stakes.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Copehead » 10 Jan 2018, 20:30

Joe Baxter wrote:The SNP is now Britain's second biggest party in the paid up membership stakes.


Who could have guessed engaging with people their interests and their problems, the young especially, could bring dividends!?
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

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Copehead wrote:
Joe Baxter wrote:The SNP is now Britain's second biggest party in the paid up membership stakes.


Who could have guessed engaging with people their interests and their problems, the young especially, could bring dividends!?

Who indeed Will.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 29 Jan 2018, 14:20

LeBaron wrote:
Jimbo wrote:I will read your link but it seems you only read my poor synopsis and not the article, otherwise you''d say more than just insult my cred


I read the article, which was nonsense.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 30 Jan 2018, 06:16

I thought it was interesting that the BBC all morning yesterday had as their headline that May was under ferocious pressure from within her own party - words such as incompetent, embarrassment and useless allegedly being the words fellow Tory MP's were using about her - yet the report above about Corbyn not winning over the youth in the election appeared and immediately dislodged it.... and then a defence of the PM's position from within Number 10 then followed immediately on and the original lead (re May's incompetence) seemed to completely disappear from the BBC news site.

Interesting.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby PENK » 30 Jan 2018, 08:36

The report about the youth vote statistics is an awkward one though as it's easy to spin to any viewpoint.

The overall number of youth votes didn't go up: Corbyn was ineffective and didn't motivate the youth to vote.

The proportion of youth voting Labour went up: Corbyn inspired more young people to vote Labour while others stopped voting for the other parties.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 30 Jan 2018, 09:35

Well the truth is somewhere in between but maybe not as positive as some believed.
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Jimbo wrote:I will read your link but it seems you only read my poor synopsis and not the article, otherwise you''d say more than just insult my cred


I read the article, which was nonsense.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Goat Boy » 30 Jan 2018, 09:42

Diamond Dog wrote:I thought it was interesting that the BBC all morning yesterday had as their headline that May was under ferocious pressure from within her own party - words such as incompetent, embarrassment and useless allegedly being the words fellow Tory MP's were using about her - yet the report above about Corbyn not winning over the youth in the election appeared and immediately dislodged it.... and then a defence of the PM's position from within Number 10 then followed immediately on and the original lead (re May's incompetence) seemed to completely disappear from the BBC news site.

Interesting.


Did you read that on the Canary?

News items and headlines change throughout the day, especially when it's rolling 24 hour news of course.

Looking at the Beebs politics Home the main headline is now about a leaked Brexit document that suggests an economic hit and alongside the piece above is "May urged to see off Hard Brexiteers" and Laura Kuenssberg is talking about "Tory agonies".
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Jimbo wrote:I will read your link but it seems you only read my poor synopsis and not the article, otherwise you''d say more than just insult my cred


I read the article, which was nonsense.

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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby PENK » 30 Jan 2018, 09:47

Goat Boy wrote:Well the truth is somewhere in between but maybe not as positive as some believed.


Isn't it always? But again - we can say that it's not as negative as this story is trying to make out.
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Re: May still desperately clinging on to power

Postby Diamond Dog » 30 Jan 2018, 09:49

Goat Boy wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:I thought it was interesting that the BBC all morning yesterday had as their headline that May was under ferocious pressure from within her own party - words such as incompetent, embarrassment and useless allegedly being the words fellow Tory MP's were using about her - yet the report above about Corbyn not winning over the youth in the election appeared and immediately dislodged it.... and then a defence of the PM's position from within Number 10 then followed immediately on and the original lead (re May's incompetence) seemed to completely disappear from the BBC news site.

Interesting.


Did you read that on the Canary?



No Yomp, I didn't. :roll:

Not so much Canary as fucking Parrot.
In other words an extended look into *******’s head, and it seems to have some pretty good things in it (who among us is totally free of mental garbage?) It’s nice to see that he is confident enough so he can play some blues again,I’d like to hear more.