yomptepi wrote:So in your opinion, the current opposition has no requirement to hold the current government to account. Even when that government is in a minority, and even though the current opposition still fail to defeat them on anything meaningful. My goodness Pete, you really don't expect a lot from them do you. Which is just as well, as they have given you nothing.
And for the record, you have no idea how I voted, or even if i voted. Your flimsy accusations are like tattered sails in the wind. Sad really.
It is a matter of perception, I think the opposition is doing a pretty good job at holding the government to account where it can split off Tories to vote against government, as on some of the Brexit lunacy that would allow ministers to make law without recourse to parliament, forcing the government to give MPs a vote on the final deal and forcing them to drop an absolute deadline.
If you don't think those things are meaningful then you are obviously a lot more blasé about brexit than I am.
The Conservatives have also had to drop practically everything in their manifesto from a fox hunting vote to Grammar schools because the opposition is united against them and there are enough wavering Tories to mean that the government cannot force them to a vote.
The opposition cannot defeat the government if the government is unified.
The perception of the opposition not holding the government to account comes from anti-Labour sources - much of the press and the TV news media including the BBC. I think you'll find that Labour supporters are by and large as happy as they can be in opposition and with the opposition, hence the historically high % of the population saying they will vote Labour.
The one major bone of contention is Brexit, Corbyn has to play a long game and a clever game because 64% of Labour voters backed remain but the country and a large minority of Labour supporters didn't. As a remainer I was not happy with his tactics to begin with but I have come to see that he is making a decent fist of a difficult position. He is giving the Tories the rope to hang themselves with and refusing to become involved and implicated in their Brexit. He has to allow them to wholly own this shambles so when it ends in disaster, as it surely will, it will fuck the Tories so badly I will be dead and gone before we see their kakocratic like in power again.