A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

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A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby The Great Defector » 16 Mar 2017, 21:07

If you wanted to, could you start from the first X Man comic and work your way up to the latest comic. I understand that most characters go on and have solo outings, but if you were to concentrate on the x men comic, could it be done?
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby pcqgod » 19 Mar 2017, 21:24

Of course it could be done, with access to all the comics and lots and lots of free time on your hands and endless patience for these characters. Except X-Men was once the least popular Marvel comic, so there are about three years of reprints in the early 70's. Then in the 80's a stand-alone graphic novel, "God Loves, Man Kills," then an X-Men spinoff comic called X-Factor with the original X-Men from the 60's comic. Then in the 90's, there is a second X-Men comic. Then special event comics, crossovers, annuals, spinoffs, alternate reality X-Men, new X-Men titles, reboots, etc etc etc.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby Velvis » 19 Mar 2017, 21:36

Ever since the mid-eighties, the quality of the various series and storylines has been uneven. Some really good stuff has been done, but also some real dreck that you wouldn't want to put yourself through.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby sloopjohnc » 20 Mar 2017, 15:44

pcqgod wrote:Except X-Men was once the least popular Marvel comic


Funny about that. A good friend's older brother was really into Marvel Comics. Besides having the original Spiderman, he was one of the few who was into the X-Men. I doubt he kept the comics, but it's funny how Marvel latched onto them for the movies.

I'm too lazy to look them up, but I wonder why popular they are now, overall, compared to Spiderman, Ironman and Captain America, more traditional Marvel heroes.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby pcqgod » 20 Mar 2017, 19:54

A lot of it was timing. When X-Men #1 came out in '63, Marvel already had major successes with Fantastic Four, Hulk, Spider-Man, etc., so probably a lot of comic-readers saw X-Men as a second string Fantastic Four. When X-Men was revived in the mid-70's, all the traditional Marvel books had gotten stale for many readers, and the new X-Men comics had interesting new, international characters like Wolverine, Storm, Colossus and Nightcrawler, and the writing and art (especially by Chris Clairemont and John Byrne) was leagues ahead of anything else in mainstream comics at the time. The popularity continued through the 90's, when the successful animated series introduced X-Men to a whole new demographic who never even read comics before. So it was inevitable that X-Men would eventually get the movie treatment.

I think it would be fair to say that in recent years The Avengers has overtaken X-Men as the most popular Marvel sub-franchise, both in comics and movies.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby The Great Defector » 21 Mar 2017, 17:33

I can kinda understand, from a distance, why x men comics started to fade. It was getting all same-y with their characters and their back grounds. Every story seemed to have the same type of characters just with different names.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby The Great Defector » 05 May 2017, 17:57

Wow, graphic novels is a dirty business.

Batman has a new villain to add to his legendary rogue’s gallery: his supposed creator.

A new documentary makes the compelling case that Bob Kane, the Caped Crusader’s acknowledged father, unjustly hogged all the credit at the expense of his collaborator, a little-known writer named Bill Finger.


http://nypost.com/2017/05/04/the-dark-secret-behind-the-creation-of-batman/
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby Velvis » 05 May 2017, 18:41

This is not recent knowledge.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby The Great Defector » 05 May 2017, 18:54

Is to me.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby pcqgod » 07 May 2017, 23:00

Anyone who has read Batman comics knows who Bill Finger is. That article makes it sound like he is some mystery figure just now being brought to light thanks to this documentary. Nevertheless, comic creators getting their ideas and credits stolen is a sad, often-repeated story. Google Siegel and Shuster when you have time.
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Re: A Comic/Graphic Novel Theory Question

Postby Velvis » 08 May 2017, 03:08

There's even an award named after Bill Finger, which started in 2003

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Finger_Award
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