What books have had the most profound effect on your life?

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Re: What books have had the most profound effect on your life?

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Mar 2017, 17:09

Works of Shakespeare - some guy named Shakespeare
Don Quixote - Cervantes
Theban Plays - Sophocles
Will You Please Be Quiet, Please? - Carver
Stories of Frank O'Connor - O'Connor
Grapes of Wrath - Steinbeck
Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Lolita - Nabokov
Great Expectations - Dickens
Bartleby, The Scrivener - Melville
Dharma Bums - Kerouac
An American Tragedy - Dreiser
Tales of Ordinary Madness - Bukowski
USA - Dos Passos
Democracy in America - De Tocqueville
Foul! The Connie Hawkins Story - Wolf
The Powers That Be - Halberstam
Diving Into the Wreck - Rich
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Postby Geezee » 03 Mar 2017, 17:18

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Master & Margarita. I've still never read anything like it. There's a bit of a carnival feel to the book now - Russia seems to be using it to attract toursim - and I hear there is a Hollywood version coming up - and it's disappointing that nobody seems to care that I discovered the book way before it was cool.



Wonderful book - first read it in about 1977 and have re-read it pretty much every decade since then. Not sure when you first got into it G, but the book first really began to enter Western culture big time when Marianne F turned Mick J onto it in the mid-60s (Bulgakov's influence on Sympathy for the Devil is there for all the world to see).



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Postby Bride Of Sea Of Tunes » 03 Mar 2017, 18:09

sloopjohnc wrote:Works of Shakespeare - some guy named Shakespeare
Don Quixote - Cervantes
Theban Plays - Sophocles
Will You Please Be Quiet, Please? - Carver
Stories of Frank O'Connor - O'Connor
Grapes of Wrath - Steinbeck
Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Lolita - Nabokov
Great Expectations - Dickens
Bartleby, The Scrivener - Melville
Dharma Bums - Kerouac
An American Tragedy - Dreiser
Tales of Ordinary Madness - Bukowski
USA - Dos Passos
Democracy in America - De Tocqueville
Foul! The Connie Hawkins Story - Wolf
The Powers That Be - Halberstam
Diving Into the Wreck - Rich


Please allow me to return the compliment. I see some 8,9 books in there that I profoundly like. And it's a real omission on my part that I forgot Carver's great collection.
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Re: What books have had the most profound effect on your life?

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Mar 2017, 18:21

Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:Works of Shakespeare - some guy named Shakespeare
Don Quixote - Cervantes
Theban Plays - Sophocles
Will You Please Be Quiet, Please? - Carver
Stories of Frank O'Connor - O'Connor
Grapes of Wrath - Steinbeck
Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Lolita - Nabokov
Great Expectations - Dickens
Bartleby, The Scrivener - Melville
Dharma Bums - Kerouac
An American Tragedy - Dreiser
Tales of Ordinary Madness - Bukowski
USA - Dos Passos
Democracy in America - De Tocqueville
Foul! The Connie Hawkins Story - Wolf
The Powers That Be - Halberstam
Diving Into the Wreck - Rich


Please allow me to return the compliment. I see some 8,9 books in there that I profoundly like. And it's a real omission on my part that I forgot Carver's great collection.


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Re: What books have had the most profound effect on your life?

Postby toomanyhatz » 03 Mar 2017, 18:30

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The Great Defector wrote:Bible, genuinely. I disagreed with so much of it growing up and having to read and listen to its teachings. It just made me not want to follow it blindly and make up my own mind, which carried on to other subjects.


Don't mean to harp on this, and I probably am just picking on your language usage (not that I'd be the first to do that by a longshot :D ), but I wonder if what you really mean here is that you disagreed with how the Bible was interpreted? If you just disagreed with the book itself, you'd have no reason to ever pick it up again. So did re-reading it with "making up your own mind" as the goal make it more, if you will, agreeable?


Well we're talking about books that have had a profound effect on your life, what is the catalyst for this for me, the bible. I get what you are saying but I stand by what I said. The bible as a whole, had this affect on me.


If you're directly answering the question asked in the thread title, I get it now. So you're saying the Bible has had a profound effect on your life unrelated to what reading of it you may or may not have done? If so, got it. As you were.
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sloopjohnc wrote:
Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:Works of Shakespeare - some guy named Shakespeare
Don Quixote - Cervantes
Theban Plays - Sophocles
Will You Please Be Quiet, Please? - Carver
Stories of Frank O'Connor - O'Connor
Grapes of Wrath - Steinbeck
Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Lolita - Nabokov
Great Expectations - Dickens
Bartleby, The Scrivener - Melville
Dharma Bums - Kerouac
An American Tragedy - Dreiser
Tales of Ordinary Madness - Bukowski
USA - Dos Passos
Democracy in America - De Tocqueville
Foul! The Connie Hawkins Story - Wolf
The Powers That Be - Halberstam
Diving Into the Wreck - Rich


Please allow me to return the compliment. I see some 8,9 books in there that I profoundly like. And it's a real omission on my part that I forgot Carver's great collection.


We're easily the smartest guys on here, Frank, but my humility inhibits my need to state as much.


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Postby echolalia » 03 Mar 2017, 18:41

Still Baron wrote:Davis, City of Quartz

Great book, that - especially the Sunshine or Noir chapter.

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Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
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We're easily the smartest guys on here, Frank, but my humility inhibits my need to state as much.


:D

Funny and sweet!


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The Great Defector wrote:
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We're easily the smartest guys on here, Frank, but my humility inhibits my need to state as much.


:D

Funny and sweet!


....and scary.


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The Great Defector wrote:
Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:
We're easily the smartest guys on here, Frank, but my humility inhibits my need to state as much.


:D

Funny and sweet!


....and scary.


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sloopjohnc wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:
Bride Of Sea Of Tunes wrote:
:D

Funny and sweet!


....and scary.


First law we'd pass is a post quota on you.


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Postby Graham Murakami » 03 Mar 2017, 21:20

Belle Lettre wrote:13 Problems For Miss Marple.

It's what my mum gave me when I said I didn't want to read any more children's books.


They were my first adult books too. I was quite shocked to discover that the Murder of Roger Ackroyd is studied by our English Lit A level students this year.

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Postby Graham Murakami » 03 Mar 2017, 21:51

I'm not sure that books have had as profound an effect on my life as television: Brideshead Revisited and Big Brother were both far more influential than even Knausgard's My Struggle - for me, the best books written in my lifetime by a long way - and there was something about the male characters in Shelley, Diana and Budgie that grabbed me in a way that Fielding Gray, Widmerpool and all those versions of the young Martin Amis never did.

Anyway...
Bronowski's the Ascent of Man was possibly the first thing from outside of the classroom to stretch my mind and have me staying up at night thinking arguments through. It also made me happy with the atheism I had grown up with.

Several books made me more mature in my views on sexuality particularly the Tales of the City novels and Michael Carson's Sucking Sherbert Lemons (it was very popular in the UK for a year or two so should show up in secondhand shops occasionally - buy it!)

There was something in the first two Haruki Murakami books I read that essentially helped me look for pleasure in things I had previously hid from.

I suppose Proust might be considered the French Knausgard, and a la recherché has helped me age happily: there is a fantastic scene near the end where he looks around and sees how all the magnificent figures who we had heard about for the previous million pages had all grown old - awesome writing!

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A New Model of the Universe by PD Ouspensky.

Mostly nonsense, but the first time I read someone who was actually thinking. I only read it because I liked the cover.
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I have not.


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Postby Belle Lettre » 04 Mar 2017, 08:42

Graham Murakami wrote:
Belle Lettre wrote:13 Problems For Miss Marple.

It's what my mum gave me when I said I didn't want to read any more children's books.


They were my first adult books too. I was quite shocked to discover that the Murder of Roger Ackroyd is studied by our English Lit A level students this year.

Really? Astonishing. Not that the English isn't of a high standard, but still..

If the approach is more towards the innovative construction that might be more understandable. Not sure it had been done before.
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Postby PresMuffley » 04 Mar 2017, 12:00

A couple that have been mentioned by several people that I failed to list are The Grapes of Wrath & The Catcher in the Rye. I remember doing a book report on the latter in 8th grade. We had the option of choosing any novel and purely out of curiosity I chose Catcher as I had heard many pop culture referrences to it. I won't say it changed me in any significant way, but I did relate to Holden more than any character I had come across. Hell, I was Holden at that time. Sadly enough, my English teacher had never even heard of Salinger.

Kerouac had a tremendous influence on me as a teen, and provided me much inspiration to write. Today I kind of hate Jack and I don't write nearly as often - which is probably for the best.
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PresMuffley wrote:Kerouac had a tremendous influence on me as a teen, and provided me much inspiration to write. Today I kind of hate Jack and I don't write nearly as often - which is probably for the best.

Why do you hate him, Pres? Or is it his books you hate?
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