Clocked Nazi

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby bobzilla77 » 14 Feb 2017, 21:58

They are going to go down like the Hindenberg because they haven't got the brains, political skills or basic humanity to not do that.


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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby Charlie O. » 14 Feb 2017, 22:12

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 12:32

I think they words "Nazi" and "hitler" is/has turned in common misused word, like the word "gay" is/was. Like if someone seen something they didn't like or was stupid they say "that's so gay". Nazi and hitler are being used so much these days it's getting ridiculous. The only big difference and it has to be mentioned, there's nothing wrong with being gay while there's everything wrong in being a Nazi.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby K » 15 Feb 2017, 12:37

The Great Defector wrote:I think they words "Nazi" and "hitler" is/has turned in common misused word, like the word "gay" is/was. Like if someone seen something they didn't like or was stupid they say "that's so gay". Nazi and hitler are being used so much these days it's getting ridiculous. The only big difference and it has to be mentioned, there's nothing wrong with being gay while there's everything wrong in being a Nazi.

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 12:41

Expected.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby Charlie O. » 15 Feb 2017, 16:21

The Great Defector wrote:I think they words "Nazi" and "hitler" is/has turned in common misused word

Well, there's misused, and then there's appropriately used. You might want to have a gander at this article that Gash put up recently:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 17:08

Charlie O. wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:I think they words "Nazi" and "hitler" is/has turned in common misused word

Well, there's misused, and then there's appropriately used. You might want to have a gander at this article that Gash put up recently:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/


This is talking about use of media. Trump has denounced media organizations but hasn't take them out by force like hitler. His dislike to them is similar to hitler, but until he actually does something it's unfair to full compare.

I think saying things like "give him time" or "it's only a matter of time" is pretty redundant and is just forms of mud slinging. Until he actually successfully succeeds in doing anything that's remotely like hitler, I think people are adopting tactics that they cry foul about when republicans do it. They say untrue things and hope some of it stick or tarnish. So if people want to go down the same way as the republicans and fight dirty, by saying that Trump is like hitler when he's clearly not then that's their choice. I disagree with it. In any other context, this would be seen as wrong.

Also his attempts have be stopped, like the Ban, which means your country's system is working. I would take heart from that.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby Goat Boy » 15 Feb 2017, 17:18

Like attempting to undermine the judiciary?
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 17:20

attempting to undermine, not get rid of. Big difference.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby Goat Boy » 15 Feb 2017, 17:33

Copehead wrote:You are making a fool of yourself.


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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 17:37

Again similarities but no actually exacts actions like closing down media, killing political rivials etc. Trump could have the same hair cut and mustache as hitler, still doesn't mean he's going to do the exact same as him.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby sloopjohnc » 15 Feb 2017, 17:44

I wish they had these in an alt-right nazi version.

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 17:49

sloopjohnc wrote:I wish they had these in an alt-right nazi version.

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I wish I had one of them in general, right here at work.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby Goat Boy » 15 Feb 2017, 18:01

The Great Defector wrote:Again similarities but no actually exacts actions like closing down media, killing political rivials etc. Trump could have the same hair cut and mustache as hitler, still doesn't mean he's going to do the exact same as him.


The point is making comparisons to Hitler in relation to Trump is not always actually misused, in the same way that using the word "fascist" in relation to him isn't either.

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 18:08

I have used the word "similarities", which suggest that I think there are some. However out and out actions, I don't think there is. He's similar in his hate for the media for reporting his stupidity, but he hasn't close them down or took over them like hitler. He's similar with his ban on certain minority, but he wasn't fully successful thanks to the courts, while hitler and the jews, well we know that story. Even then, I don't think he would round them up and gas them if he was successful in the ban. Again there's a big difference.

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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby toomanyhatz » 15 Feb 2017, 18:09

So not the same as using the word "gay" at all then? Or are there "similarities?"
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby The Great Defector » 15 Feb 2017, 18:12

toomanyhatz wrote:So not the same as using the word "gay" at all then? Or are there "similarities?"


It's the same in over using an incorrect word, and it's becoming such common place that people are using too much. Until it comes to a point were it loses it's effectiveness.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby ^^^^^ great post. Thank you. » 15 Feb 2017, 18:14

This thread should be renamed 'hurry forth, hurry forth, potential new signatures for your delight and delectation'
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby toomanyhatz » 15 Feb 2017, 18:15

I get what you're saying about overuse and losing effectiveness, but as Goat Boy has shown, it's not incorrect, at least not wholly. And it's not a simple matter of using a word to describe something negative - it has a specific use, even if it's an exaggerated one. And for the most part, it seems to me the people who use the comparison are generally pretty specific - and correct - in how they're using it.
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Re: Clocked Nazi

Postby K » 15 Feb 2017, 18:19

Minnie Cheddars wrote:This thread should be renamed 'hurry forth, hurry forth, potential new signatures for your delight and delectation'

Can't we call it "Bloody hell, Markus, you don't help yourself"?
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