President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dr. Baron » 19 May 2020, 16:07

The President's physician doesn't actually say that he has prescribed the drug for the President, or that he is taking it.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172 ... bd08290000
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Six String » 19 May 2020, 18:20

Dr. Baron wrote:The President's physician doesn't actually say that he has prescribed the drug for the President, or that he is taking it.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172 ... bd08290000


Part of me is very skeptical that he is actually taking the drug. Either way it is very troubling.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby The Prof » 19 May 2020, 21:07

What he actually wants is all his supporters to take the drug and die. That's how he will get re-elec.......oh.....(he hasn't thought it through)

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby The Prof » 19 May 2020, 21:44

Dr. Baron wrote:The President's physician doesn't actually say that he has prescribed the drug for the President, or that he is taking it.



But what the heck - lets buy a few truck load fulls for the UK!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... 1589915983

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Charlie O. » 20 May 2020, 03:07

Great column by WaPo's Dana Milbank (I'd copy and paste, but there are too many hotlinks):

If Trump likes hydroxychloroquine, he’ll love camel urine
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 27 May 2020, 03:32

This sounds about right.

Trump is not a populist champion of the little guy, nor a closet Nazi working to establish a white ethnostate, nor a Kremlin asset, but is in fact nothing other [than] a miserable rich man from a miserable rich family who did what it takes to get elected to the presidency of a racist, corrupt, bloodthirsty empire and remain there for a full term. Everything else is narrative which is wholly divorced from reality.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby toomanyhatz » 30 May 2020, 09:56

I don't believe in an Anti-Christ myself, but if I did? Chilling to say the least.

And, I'm quick to add, written by a devout Christian.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lord Rother » 05 Jun 2020, 20:49

39 key statements from today’s speech..... (lifted from CNN).

1. "We were very strong. We had the greatest economy in the history of our country, we had the greatest economy in the history of the world."

This is not true. No matter how many times he says it. And away we go!

2. "And therapeutics, likewise, we're doing extremely well. Cures, we're doing well. I think those two words really blend in with each other."

Wait, so Trump thinks the words "cures" and "therapeutics" go well together? That's what he's saying here? Like "cure-apeutics?" Or maybe "thera-cures?"

3. "And it's also -- the nice part is, we have four companies -- I guess you could even say seven or eight companies -- that are doing, some similar and some very different, on the vaccine front, and some similar and some somewhat different on the therapeutic front."

Diagram this sentence. I dare you.

4. "I hope that the lockdown governors -- I don't know why they continue to lock down."

Well, mostly because most states haven't met the Trump administration's key deadline for reopening: A two-week continuous decline in cases. So, yeah.

5. "And I hope they also use our National Guard. Call me, we'll be ready for them so fast their heads will spin."

In which the President of the United State practically begs governors to allow him to send National Guard troops to respond to what have been, especially of late, peaceful protests in the wake of George Floyd's death.

6. "What we're announcing today is a tremendous tribute to equality."

What he is announcing is the fact that the economy added more than 2 million jobs over the last month. The unemployment rate for black workers was 16.8% in May, generally stable with where it was in April. White workers' unemployment dropped to 12.4% this month.

7. "We had the most people working in the history of our country, almost 160 million people. We were never even close to that."

This is true! But it's also misleading. We had more people working in America than ever before because we have more people in America than ever before.

8. "I think even before today, our polls were -- the polls that I've seen and the polls that we do were looking very good."

[narrator voice] The polls are not looking very good.

9. "I'm a big environmentalist."

"The Trump Administration Is Reversing 100 Environmental Rules. Here's the Full List." -- The New York Times

10. "We have the cleanest air, the cleanest water we've ever had."

Nope!

11. "Our body was so powerful that we could actually close our country, save millions of lives, stop people very early on from China from coming in -- because we stopped early, at the end of January, very early, people coming from China who were infected coming into our country."

Reminder: We have almost 1.9 million confirmed cases of coronavirus in the United States. More than 108,000 people have died from the virus.

12. "We'll have the greatest -- we'll go back to having the greatest economy anywhere in the world; nothing close."

You can't go back to something that didn't exist.

13. "But it's a gift from China, and a very bad gift, I will tell you that."

Donald Trump on coronavirus: "A very bad gift." On a related note: When I was 12, I bought my dad an Atari 2600 for Father's Day. Meaning, I spent my parents' money to buy a gift for myself on a day meant to celebrate my dad. That, I would say, is a "very bad gift."

14. "They knew it was a problem. But they didn't stop it cold from coming to the United States, Europe and the rest of the world. Somebody has to ask these questions, and we'll get down to the answer."

Just the President suggesting, without providing any evidence to back it up, that China somehow purposely allowed the virus to spread around the world while limiting its spread in their country. No big deal! Normal stuff!

15. "But the ink wasn't dry on that deal when the -- when the plague floated in. What's going on? A plague is floating in from China. What's going on?"

"Who am I? Why am I here?" -- Admiral James Stockdale

16. "V is wonderful. A V is this, that we're talking about, will it be a V, a U, an L, they had no idea."

He is talking about a "V"-shaped economic recovery in which there is a very severe dip and then a very rapid recovery.

17. "I think it was probably the greatest miscalculation in the history of business shows -- history of business shows, talking about Wall Street. And that's OK."

Even the inaccurate predictions of job losses in May have to be "the greatest miscalculation" in history. Many people are saying it. Believe me.

18. "You're getting closer together. Even you, I noticed you're starting to get much closer together. It looks much better, I must say. You're not all the way there yet, but you'll be there soon."

Trump is referring here to the press corps sitting closer to one another. The reason for this? The White House staff put the chairs closer.

19. "This isn't a terrible recession. I don't even mention the 'D' word. I don't talk about the 'D' word. I don't want to talk about it because every time somebody even mentions it -- I don't like the 'D' word."

Offered without comment.

20. "It'll all work out. It'll all work out."

[nods head slowly]

21. "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying, 'There's a great thing that's happening for our country.' This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody."

Just to be crystal clear at what Trump is saying here: George Floyd, who died at the hands of Minneapolis police officers late last month, is looking down from heaven, seeing the jobs numbers, and saying, "There's a great thing that's happening for our country." Yes. It's beyond belief.

22. "And this time, the greatest comeback in American history -- today is probably, if you think of it, the greatest comeback in American history. "

Absolutely everything has to be the biggest and greatest. Everything.

23. "I was watching our great vice president today being interviewed on CNBC -- he did a phenomenal job -- and he made a statement."

Remember: Donald Trump watches a lot of TV. Like, a lot.

24. "I've had 144 all-time high stock markets during a 3.5-year period."

"I've."

25. "I have a good -- I've always done well with numbers. But I had a feel for it."

Uh...

26. "It's very tough, very contagious, very mean to certain people."

The President of the United States on a virus that has killed more than 108,000 Americans: "Very mean to certain people."

27. "They were saying, 'Oh, you should use admirals.' I said, 'I did.' 'You should use generals.' I said, 'I did. I used them both.'"

Who is this mysterious "they?"

28. "It's complex -- very complex machinery, computerized all over the place, and very expensive."

Ventilators, man. Those things are "computerized all over the place."

29. "The cupboards were empty. The previous administration left us empty cupboards."

Nah, man.

30. "We may have some embers or some ashes, or we may have some flames coming, but we'll put them out. We'll stomp them out."

He's talking about putting out future Covid-19 spikes. And, yes, this is the most tortured metaphor ever.

31. "People are -- people are driving. I may have to buy one of those things; drive around town. Maybe I'll drive back to New York with our first lady in a trailer."

No words.

32. "I think I'm going to buy an RV and travel from now on in an RV with our first lady. I don't think anybody would mind that."

[narrator voice] They wouldn't.

33. "So I say, 'Thank goodness I'm in perfect shape. Thank goodness.'"

According to the results of a physical exam released by the White House this week, Trump is 6'3" tall and weighs 244 pounds. That gives him a Body Mass Index of 30.5, meeting the definition of clinically obese.

34. "I said it a long time ago based on knowledge -- based on knowledge. I'm -- I'm meeting with these geniuses -- based on knowledge."

"Based on knowledge." (He's talking about a vaccine timeline. I think.)

35. "I said a long time ago -- I said 'by the end of the year.' I think it's going to be a lot sooner than that."

The most optimistic predictions for the development and distribution of a coronavirus vaccine are late 2020 or early 2021.

36. "We did all of these numbers and all of this greatness -- we have the greatest economy we've ever had."

So many numbers. So much greatness.

37. "Nobody has done more in three and a half years than this administration has done. Nobody has come close to doing the things we've done."

This is basically an uncheckable claim. But Trump says it a lot so it must be true!

38. "We have sadists, we have thieves, we have a lot of bad people."

Wait, we had sadists at the VA? Man!

39. "You are something."

The President of the United States to Yamiche Alcindor, a reporter for PBS NewsHour and a black woman, who was asking him for specifics on a plan to address the violence against African Americans by the police.

Yeah, this feel like a good place to end.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Charlie O. » 05 Jun 2020, 23:45

Don't know about you, but I'm tired of "winning".
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sam Stone » 12 Jun 2020, 13:30

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... top-800000

Looking at BCB's most ardent Trumpster, doubt many attendees at his rallies would have the mental wherewithal required to call 1-800-FUCKWIT or email a lawyer if they did try to sue.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dr. Baron » 12 Jun 2020, 13:45

Presumably, they'd have to prove they caught it at the rally, which should nip any suits in the bud, but who knows.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dr. Baron » 20 Jun 2020, 04:56

Looks like we could get a nice constitutional showdown in the Justice Department, where they’re trying to fire the (I think) acting US Attorney in Manhattan (where there are probably lots of interesting ongoing investigations). It seems that the incumbent is a placeholder (not a proper appointment) and therefore can’t be deposed until the Senate confirms a replacement? Anyway, AG Barr tried to fire him and he’s testing Barr’s authority to do that. This should be innarestin and should help seal Barr’s fate as a historically villainous AG in the annals of official American devilry.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dr. Baron » 20 Jun 2020, 21:09

The AG can't fire him, but the President can.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/2 ... uit-330600

EDIT: But now Trump is denying having fired him?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Six String » 20 Jun 2020, 21:26

I'm starting to despise Barr as much as Trump and that's saying something. January can't come soon enough.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dr. Baron » 20 Jun 2020, 21:43

Trump is in a big hole and has his back to the wall, especially with this botched firing of the US Attorney and the people from his campaign testing positive, in addition to all the protests. I'm fearful about what kind of shit he'll come out with at this rally in Tulsa. And what kind of shit the MAGA crowd could perpetrate. :?
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Postby Dr. Baron » 21 Jun 2020, 04:25

Dr. Baron wrote:Trump is in a big hole and has his back to the wall, especially with this botched firing of the US Attorney and the people from his campaign testing positive, in addition to all the protests. I'm fearful about what kind of shit he'll come out with at this rally in Tulsa. And what kind of shit the MAGA crowd could perpetrate. :?


But if no one wants to show up, that works too.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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Dr. Baron wrote:The AG can't fire him, but the President can.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/2 ... uit-330600

EDIT: But now Trump is denying having fired him?


The way I saw/heard, it he said that the whole business laid with Barr's dept. and that he was "not involved". I took that to mean that he was not involved in the decision itself, not that he didn't sign the order.

I'm not defending him, mind. Anyway you choose to read that, he remains a lying weasel who has no qualms with passing the blame for his questionable actions onto others.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lord Rother » 23 Jun 2020, 22:39

Lifelong Republican Steve Schmidt who ran John McCain’s campaign for president said this:

“Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

Can’t say I’ve ever heard of him before, but I kinda like him.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Six String » 23 Jun 2020, 23:35

That's pretty much it in a (large) nutshell.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Lord Rother » 28 Jun 2020, 19:45

Mary L Trump’s book “Too Much and Never Enough - How My Family Created The World’s Most Dangerous Man” should be interesting.

She’s his niece, and a clinical psychologist. She knows the family secrets and hates her Uncle with a vengeance by the sounds of it.

Due to be published late July, Donnie is of course trying everything to stop it’s publication.

Is this getting much attention in US?