President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Hightea » 08 Oct 2019, 20:00

Jimbo wrote:
Sneelock wrote: As for Trump leaving a slime trail to Putin - i’m Not the sort of guy that enjoys setting up Dominos for someone who intends to knock them down. You insist that Putin is a good leader despite all the god damned evidence that he is becoming “the boss of bosses”. Seriously, what a fucking scum-bag Putin is. If you can’t see that then why would you care if TRUMP is his beyotch?


Russians like the guy and he does get shit done. He isn't hurting Jews. That's refreshing. Since you seemingly can't come up with one questionable point I would say your perception has been warped and biased a la Maddow and the US mainstream media which has historically and reflexively been anti-Russia. Watch the Oliver Stone interview. It's on YouTube.


Putin a good guy? are you f*cking kidding me? Jimbo you are a nut job if you believe that. Putin is a former KGB guy and still kills political opponents especially journalists over 150 of them. Also who knows what the Russians really think about him most are too frightened to speak against him especially if they are jews.

Jimbo if you think Putin is such a good guy go to Russia and stand in Red Square and say a few bad things about Putin see how long you last.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 00:12

Don't believe the hypo-ganda.

My view of Putin is of course not first hand but is validated by Russia expert Prof. Stephen F. Cohen who has a laudable opinion of Putin. Cohen was an early debunker of Russiagate and he was right. Russiagate was a flop. Russia/Putin/Russians DID NOT collude with Trump nor did Trump collude with them.

There are a number of clips on YouTube but some are too long so I chose this one. Who doesn't like Larry King?

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Oct 2019, 06:09

Jimbo wrote: Russia/Putin/Russians DID NOT collude with Trump nor did Trump collude with them.


The only report on 'Russiagate" specifically did not rule out collusion, as I recall. It just couldn't/wouldn't prove it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 06:39

Diamond Dog wrote:
Jimbo wrote: Russia/Putin/Russians DID NOT collude with Trump nor did Trump collude with them.


The only report on 'Russiagate" specifically did not rule out collusion, as I recall. It just couldn't/wouldn't prove it.


If after spending millions and wasting three years investigating they couldn't come up with one indictment I'd say the case is dead. I'd also say it exonerates Putin somewhat.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Oct 2019, 16:21

Jimbo wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
Jimbo wrote: Russia/Putin/Russians DID NOT collude with Trump nor did Trump collude with them.


The only report on 'Russiagate" specifically did not rule out collusion, as I recall. It just couldn't/wouldn't prove it.


If after spending millions and wasting three years investigating they couldn't come up with one indictment I'd say the case is dead. I'd also say it exonerates Putin somewhat.


Well - to be fair- you would, wouldn't you?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sam Stone » 09 Oct 2019, 17:13

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Who doesn't like Larry King?



The ex-wives from his eight marriages?

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Oct 2019, 17:14

Jimbo wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
Jimbo wrote: Russia/Putin/Russians DID NOT collude with Trump nor did Trump collude with them.


The only report on 'Russiagate" specifically did not rule out collusion, as I recall. It just couldn't/wouldn't prove it.


If after spending millions and wasting three years investigating they couldn't come up with one indictment ANY MORE THAN 34 INDICTMENTS I'd say the case is dead. I'd also say it exonerates Putin somewhat.


https://time.com/5556331/mueller-invest ... lty-pleas/

Sure, exoneration. :roll:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Oct 2019, 17:54

Looks like there's going to be a new book for the pussy-grabbing section of our bookshelves:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a ... omen-book/

43 new allegations of unwanted touching. Jeez, this woke era, right, guys? It's like you can't even be a scumbag President amiright?!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 09 Oct 2019, 19:26

Jimbo wrote:If after spending millions and wasting three years investigating they couldn't come up with one indictment I'd say the case is dead. I'd also say it exonerates Putin somewhat.

Let me remind you (because I've said this before) that the cost of the investigation was more than offset by forfeitures garnered from Manafort.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 20:05

Count Machuki wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:
The only report on 'Russiagate" specifically did not rule out collusion, as I recall. It just couldn't/wouldn't prove it.


If after spending millions and wasting three years investigating they couldn't come up with one indictment ANY MORE THAN 34 INDICTMENTS I'd say the case is dead. I'd also say it exonerates Putin somewhat.


https://time.com/5556331/mueller-invest ... lty-pleas/

Sure, exoneration. :roll:


Yeah, I kinda thought I was wrong about no indictments but what I had in mind was answered (surprisingly) in the Time article.

But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election.


My fear throughout this farrago was war with Russia. You keep poking the bear with a bullshit stick and he's going to get pissed. Fortunately my pal Vlad showed more forbearance than I had thought he would. I still see anti-Russia remarks in mainstream outlets as if Mueller had found collusion. It is obnoxious and still dangerous. Media in my circle are more concerned with actual issues and not made up scapegoating.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Charlie O. » 09 Oct 2019, 20:34

Jimbo wrote:My fear throughout this farrago was war with Russia. You keep poking the bear with a bullshit stick and he's going to get pissed. Fortunately my pal Vlad showed more forbearance than I had thought he would.

I don't see (and never have seen) much bear-poking going on here. Exactly how have we provoked the bear? By saying the shouldn't fuck with our elections? They know they did that (even if you don't). The provocation seems pretty one-sided to me - and yet it's Russia getting pissed that you're worried about.

And I promise you this: your pal (and Donald's) Vlad is loving this shit.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 20:46

Charlie O. wrote: Exactly how have we provoked the bear? By saying they shouldn't fuck with our elections?


They didn't.

Again. From CIA owned and operated Time Magazine
But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbly » 09 Oct 2019, 21:28

Jimbo wrote:
Charlie O. wrote: Exactly how have we provoked the bear? By saying they shouldn't fuck with our elections?


They didn't.

Again. From CIA owned and operated Time Magazine
But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election.


Which only addresses whether there was collusion between the campaign and Russia. It doesn't mean that there was no interference by Russia.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 21:31

Jeemo wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Charlie O. wrote: Exactly how have we provoked the bear? By saying they shouldn't fuck with our elections?


They didn't.

Again. From CIA owned and operated Time Magazine
But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election.


Which only addresses whether there was collusion between the campaign and Russia. It doesn't mean that there was no interference by Russia.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby toomanyhatz » 09 Oct 2019, 21:36

It also doesn't state that there was no collusion. Do I really have to explain again the difference between "no charges" and "no collusion?"
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Oct 2019, 21:45

toomanyhatz wrote:It also doesn't state that there was no collusion. Do I really have to explain again the difference between "no charges" and "no collusion?"


It's over. Get with the program. Now it's Ukrainegate.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby toomanyhatz » 09 Oct 2019, 21:56

Yet you're totally prepared to believe that there's a "smoking gun" in the Biden connection months after it was investigated and nothing found?

I think Bob is right. I think YOU'RE colluding with the Russians.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Deebank » 10 Oct 2019, 10:05

Is shitting on the Kurds the worst thing he's done?
It's up there certainly.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 10 Oct 2019, 10:34

Deebank wrote:Is shitting on the Kurds the worst thing he's done?
It's up there certainly.

I really wish I believed in karma.


I hope I'm not wrong but I have a feeling the Turks will regret taking on the trained and experienced Kurd fighters.

Kim's done her homework here and lays out the case where it is time to go.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 10 Oct 2019, 16:42

"Two Soviet-born donors to a pro- Trump fundraising committee who helped Rudy Giuliani’s efforts to investigate Democrat Joe Biden were arrested late Wednesday on criminal charges of violating campaign finance rules, including funneling Russian money into President Trump’s campaign."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreig ... 1570714188

I'm sure there's an innocent explanation for all this! :lol:
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