President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Six String » 08 Jan 2019, 19:21

I can't stand to hear him talk so I'll read the synopsis afterwards.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 08 Jan 2019, 19:28

Here's my prediction. He blames the Democrats for six more weeks of winter and pretty much everything else.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 08 Jan 2019, 20:13

Here's my prediction. His head finally explodes Scanners-style on live TV.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 08 Jan 2019, 20:58

^^^ I vote for this! : )
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 08 Jan 2019, 22:36

:lol: imagine the ratings!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Jan 2019, 02:07

*sniff*
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Jan 2019, 02:09

What a load of xenophobic racist bullshit this is. FUCK.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Jan 2019, 03:23

That was an embarrassingly poor speech.
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 09 Jan 2019, 03:41

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Still Baron » 09 Jan 2019, 04:48

What about Manafort sharing internal (sensitive) polling with the Russians, eh? Jimbo just may have to EAT HIS COLLUSION HAT yet!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Jan 2019, 06:23

Stille Baron wrote:What about Manafort sharing internal (sensitive) polling with the Russians, eh? Jimbo just may have to EAT HIS COLLUSION HAT yet!


A link might be helpful. :)

Okay, I just watched a Young Turks video about the accidental expose of the lies he supposedly told investigators and the TYT team seem as gleeful as you at this news. We'll see if the COLLUSION charge holds up even with this rather weak revelation. I mean if this is THE bombshell then I think Trump will slunk his way out again.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 09 Jan 2019, 16:32

Man did those guys screw up. For my job I sometimes prepare redacted documents for filing in federal court and if I did what they did I would be so fired.

I'm not sure the collusion case is going to have a "bombshell," as such, or one that implicates DJT personally. It seems more to be a gradual accretion of facts that are bringing some kind of picture into increasingly clear focus.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 09 Jan 2019, 16:46

The bottom line for me is how, for months, TRUMP & all parties involved insisted that there had been NO contact with or business interests in Russia whatsoever. Well, it’s pretty clear that there was contact & interests to the extent that nobody really makes that claim anymore.

Well, I’m not the sort of person that lets somebody off the hook for something like that. The difference between “none” & “some” is the same difference between “some” & “lots”

Why are so many so willing to let this slide?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Jan 2019, 17:04

Sneelock wrote:
Why are so many so willing to let this slide?


I'm starting to suspect that a good percentage of our countrymen JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK, snee.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 09 Jan 2019, 18:01

I've been thinking about that "crisis" speech last night.

all this hubbub about him declaring a state of emergency and then he calls for this speech. So, he's got the media establishement's attention. he gives the speech. Anything he hasn't said a lot recently? not really.

okay, here's what I think. he needs to be on TV. he doesn't exist unless he's on TV. He gives his stupid rally speeches - he's on TV. He can't seem to get the hang of how to fucking govern but he certainly knows how to get his ass on TV.

In fact, I think the only thing that saves us from him being on TV 3 or 4 hours a day like Hugo Chavez is the fact that he knows, in his heart of heart, watching someone watching TV isn't really very good television.

Now, to the rebuttals - I think Bernie and Ocasio/Cortez did more than simply respond forcefully to the President's address. They showed more concern and ability to articulate the failings in the President's policy and presentation than the party establishment did and by a long shot.

I think the Democrats are having a lot of "shit or get off the pot" moments right now. I won't slam them entirely. they've done a good job of reminding people that TRUMP owned the shutdown before he tried to hang in on them. Here's the deal... while the "we just want to get to work" approach is a good one it can't compare with WHY the President's policy is unsound and what the real emergencies facing America are.

I think the Dems need to make their peace with "the new democrats". strategy only gets you so far and a lot of numbers are changing. I hear Democrats talking the way I think Democrats should be talking. I hope there will be solidarity but I don't think the Party Establishment should expect to dictate the terms of this. something new has been added. sure, it's been brewing for a while but, when voters hear it - they connect with it. I hope they will stand shoulder to shoulder with these people instead of trying to stand on their necks.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 09 Jan 2019, 18:32

Sneelock wrote:The bottom line for me is how, for months, TRUMP & all parties involved insisted that there had been NO contact with or business interests in Russia whatsoever.

What triggers my suspicion is that very insistence. You would think that someone with nothing to hide would have welcomed the opportunity to have a mole exposed (if, say, team-member-X were a rogue operator and no one else on the team knew). That person would have welcomed an investigation, if only for the optics of transparency it would have suggested.

But to unilaterally insist that not only you yourself, but EVERYONE on the team is 100% above suspicion just doesn't make any sense. How could he possibly be in a position to know such a thing, that's by definition not knowable? And these sweeping (yet easily disprovable) denials about his business interests have just totally undermined his position from day one.

He lies like he breathes, like my seven year-old with a mouth full of cookies who swears she didn't eat the cookies.

We still don't have enough info to know whether he knew about any collusion, but the only reasonable inference I can draw is that he's guilty as fuck.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 09 Jan 2019, 18:40

Sneelock wrote:I won't slam [the Democrats] entirely. they've done a good job of reminding people that TRUMP owned the shutdown before he tried to hang in on them.

They really need to drive home the points that a) the Wall money Trump is asking for now is THREE TIMES the amount he had in his own proposed 2019 budget for border security and b) he just had two years in office with a republican-majority Congress and pretty much just sat on his hands with respect to the issue.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Charlie O. » 09 Jan 2019, 19:32

and c) the Wall is, and always has been, an insanely stupid idea.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 09 Jan 2019, 20:35

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 09 Jan 2019, 21:34

Seems Mister Very Stable Genius has just stormed out of a meeting in a huff. That'll show 'em!

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