President Donald J. Trump

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 12 Oct 2018, 00:11

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 Oct 2018, 07:42

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Dor-Relip Hotels and Bathings » 19 Oct 2018, 13:02

Draining the swamp was Trump's phrase wasn't it? I wanted him to win to crash the system, not to 'drain the swamp', and he's done a great job of it so far, not least in the last few weeks. He says out loud what they all think - both wings of the American empire party, and they hate him for it. He's like an incompetent magician exposing all their secrets. There's no artifice or varnish with him, he's not going to do anything against the Saudis because of arms sales - they all think it, he actually says it out loud. It's brilliant. Whilst they spend 2 years telling us Trump's a dangerous traitor in league with Putin, they vote to give him a massive increase in arms sales and support all his warmongering. Total phonies.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 20 Oct 2018, 08:08

Mueller Investigation
Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment


And be forewarned that the special counsel’s findings may never be made public.

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN

10/19/2018

President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past 17 months anticipating what some expect will be among the most thrilling events of their lives: special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report on Russian 2016 election interference.

They may be in for a disappointment.

That’s the word POLITICO got from defense lawyers working on the Russia probe and more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case. The public, they say, shouldn’t expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump — not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists and amateur Mueller sleuths.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/ ... ngs-914754

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/poli ... 88376c63d7

HA!

I told you knuckleheads. Robert Parry. Jimmy Dore and Caitlin were right, see. You got nuthin'. Nuthin' on ol' Trumpy. Nuthin' on Putin neither, see. You can stick your collusion up where the sun don't shine. Hear that Rachel Maddow? Nuthin, see.



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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 20 Oct 2018, 17:25

Not sure what you think you are celebrating here.

They might indeed bury his report. That doesn’t mean there’s nothing there.
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Postby Stille Baron » 20 Oct 2018, 19:23

1. That this report won’t necessarily be public information or released to the public by Mueller is old news.
2. The release (or not) by Mueller has nothing to do with the strength or weakness of the contents.
3. It does not follow that “you got nothin.”
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 20 Oct 2018, 20:14

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:Not sure what you think you are celebrating here.

They might indeed bury his report. That doesn’t mean there’s nothing there.


I'm "celebrating" because I had learned early on that the Russia! Russia! Democratic gambit to get Trump impeached was a fake, an unnecessary, geopolitically dangerous false flag and I know - logic tells me - that if the Democrats want to beat Trump they simply need to run more progressive, populist, Medicare For All, etc., candidates and not craft wild schemes to make the Republicans look bad. Maybe they will see the error and run with a positive message and win.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Diamond Dog » 20 Oct 2018, 20:22

It's like playing conspiracy bingo reading your posts Jimbo - tick those buzz words and get to "House"!" as soon as possible.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 20 Oct 2018, 20:45

Diamond Dog wrote:It's like playing conspiracy bingo reading your posts Jimbo - tick those buzz words and get to "House"!" as soon as possible.


And this is where you write "for example …" and I can address your otherwise vapid critique.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Diamond Dog » 20 Oct 2018, 20:56

Jimbo wrote: was a fake, an unnecessary, geopolitically dangerous false flag


Gibberish.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 20 Oct 2018, 21:10

Diamond Dog wrote:
Jimbo wrote: was a fake, an unnecessary, geopolitically dangerous false flag


Gibberish.


How so? I have posted article after article, video after video - all of them sourced with links and evidences - written by people who know more about geopolitics than I - and maybe even you - which you haven't read or watched, assuming (I assume) they're all kooks and unworthy. It is from these articles where I get my POV, where I learned what a fake the Russia! things is - was. So it isn't exactly I who generate the "gibberish" it comes from my reading and watching. Go back to an article or video I posted and then critique the article.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 20 Oct 2018, 22:57

LeBaron wrote:1. That this report won’t necessarily be public information or released to the public by Mueller is old news.
2. The release (or not) by Mueller has nothing to do with the strength or weakness of the contents.
3. It does not follow that “you got nothin.”


JImbo, neither you nor I nor your "sources" have a clue what is or isn't in the report . The fact that you're using it as a "gimme" proves once again how monumentally clueless you are.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 20 Oct 2018, 23:40

toomanyhatz wrote:
LeBaron wrote:1. That this report won’t necessarily be public information or released to the public by Mueller is old news.
2. The release (or not) by Mueller has nothing to do with the strength or weakness of the contents.
3. It does not follow that “you got nothin.”


JImbo, neither you nor I nor your "sources" have a clue what is or isn't in the report . The fact that you're using it as a "gimme" proves once again how monumentally clueless you are.


Gum flapping as usual, Hatz. All I do is show you clues.

When I, for example, showed you evidence that the DNC files were directly downloaded onto a thumb-drive from the DNC server rather than hacked by Russians, you (collectively) would poo poo that info and tell me to "Wait for the report. Wait for the report." Well, maybe Mueller knows now that the files were downloaded and admitting it would be embarrassing, There is actual evidence for the download angle. Now it seems we will never see the report. Yeah, maybe there is actual dirt in the report or there isn't. Either way, fat lot of good all that reporting is no matter what it contains. What you or I surmise is now moot. It's all been a big waste of time, money and credibility, nor, obviously, is there any real danger to our democracy. I had argued it was a load of crap long ago while you were whipped up onto a lather of Russo-phobia and hatred for Trump, and now you, the country, the Democrats the media are covered in egg while Trump and Putin are victorious.

And there is even more trouble for Mueller today because according to Bloomberg - well, you of course remember Putin's chef, Putin's pal the owner of the Russian bot and troll farm, those dastardly 13 indicted Russians, well, he and his company want their day in an American court and an American judge may give it to them.

Mueller Ordered to Clarify Claims Against Putin Ally's Company


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -s-company

Clueless, am I? :roll:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 20 Oct 2018, 23:51

Why was Manafort only wearing a LEFT shoe yesterday when he appeared in court?

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 21 Oct 2018, 01:21

toomanyhatz wrote:
LeBaron wrote:1. That this report won’t necessarily be public information or released to the public by Mueller is old news.
2. The release (or not) by Mueller has nothing to do with the strength or weakness of the contents.
3. It does not follow that “you got nothin.”


JImbo, neither you nor I nor your "sources" have a clue what is or isn't in the report . The fact that you're using it as a "gimme" proves once again how monumentally clueless you are.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 21 Oct 2018, 01:21

$P.Muff$ wrote:Why was Manafort only wearing a LEFT shoe yesterday when he appeared in court?


Ask Jimbo's "sources."
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 21 Oct 2018, 01:58

No need.

He'll re-post their opinions here soon enough.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 21 Oct 2018, 04:49

Jimbo wrote: ...not craft wild schemes to make the Republicans look bad.

It hardly seems necessary.

Jimbo wrote:
Mueller Ordered to Clarify Claims Against Putin Ally's Company


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -s-company

So what?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 21 Oct 2018, 10:38

Snarfyguy wrote:
Jimbo wrote: ...not craft wild schemes to make the Republicans look bad.

It hardly seems necessary.

Jimbo wrote:
Mueller Ordered to Clarify Claims Against Putin Ally's Company


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -s-company

So what?


If your memory is so short let me remind you how everyone said how the indicted 13 trolls, or whatever they were, would never see the inside of a US courtroom because Russia has no extradition treaty with the US. But these guys are flipping the table and basically turning themselves in saying let's have a trial. Apparently they are charged with interfering with an election and apparently that's not a real crime. They want to clear their names. (And probably to make a mockery of Mueller and co.) And if there is a trial (There won't be.) there should be a release of all the info the prosecutor has against them and then Russiagate would be exposed as a fraud, IMO a false flag op to goad Russia into a new cold war thus enriching a few already rich people - Democratic Party funders to be sure.

Oh goodie!

Yesterday the news broke that Swamp Monster-In-Chief John Bolton has been pushing President Trump to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, the 1988 arms control agreement between the US and the Soviet Union eliminating all missiles of a specified range from the arsenals of the two nuclear superpowers. Today, Trump has announced that he will be doing exactly as Bolton instructed.

This would be the second missile treaty between the US and Russia that America has withdrawn from since it abandoned the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002. John Bolton, an actual psychopath who Trump hired as his National Security Advisor in April, ran point on that move as well back when he was part of the increasingly indistinguishable Bush administration. …

This is of course coming after two years of Democratic Party loyalists attacking Trump on the basis that he has not been sufficiently hawkish toward Russia, and claiming that this is because he is Putin’s puppet.


https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/puti ... c5f939da43
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